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rusty

posted on 13/6/07 at 06:19 PM Reply With Quote
Type 9 oil

What oil is best for a standard Type 9, nothing to silly.

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jos

posted on 13/6/07 at 06:23 PM Reply With Quote
75w90





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rusty

posted on 13/6/07 at 06:27 PM Reply With Quote
Forgot to ask how much it will need for an empty box.
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Catpuss

posted on 13/6/07 at 06:34 PM Reply With Quote
Something like 1.9 liters? Halfords do 1 liter bottles. I just got two on trade card and they wern't too bad a price.
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SeaBass

posted on 13/6/07 at 06:41 PM Reply With Quote
https://www.burtonpower.com/default.aspx?/technical/tt_type9.html






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Fatgadget

posted on 13/6/07 at 07:11 PM Reply With Quote
We used to use ATF in ZF and rocket boxes with no issues.
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Dusty

posted on 13/6/07 at 10:51 PM Reply With Quote
I use ATF in mine for a slightly better change especially from cold.
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Macbeast

posted on 14/6/07 at 04:38 AM Reply With Quote
When I drained my box, the oil was pink. The guy who checked the box for me said yes that was right but he couldn't remember what it was called. Would that have been ATF - I understand Automatic Transmission Fluid ?
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rusty

posted on 14/6/07 at 07:51 PM Reply With Quote
So is it ok to use AFT as I think I have some, is it better than Halford standard 75w90
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MikeRJ

posted on 14/6/07 at 11:03 PM Reply With Quote
From the Retro Car Type9 guide:

BGH recommend Ford Semi-synthetic oil ESD M2C174-A Sepcification (Ford part A83SX 2c 175-AA), or Comma Semi synthetic gear oil.

They do not recommend engine oil, ATF or EP80.

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rusty nuts

posted on 15/6/07 at 12:29 PM Reply With Quote
When I spoke to Brian from BGH at Stoneleigh he recommended the Comma oil. DO NOT use incorrect oil as it causes problems
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BKLOCO

posted on 15/6/07 at 12:37 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
From the Retro Car Type9 guide:

BGH recommend Ford Semi-synthetic oil ESD M2C174-A Sepcification (Ford part A83SX 2c 175-AA), or Comma Semi synthetic gear oil.

They do not recommend engine oil, ATF or EP80.


100% agreement with above DO NOT use ATF

Semi snyth is best if box is in good cond.

I have heard of people using thicker mineral oils in worn boxes but it's likely to be a very short term solution.





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snippy

posted on 30/6/08 at 09:06 PM Reply With Quote
Type 9 - the fluid debate......

Just found this thread and I`m now confused. I am suffering problems getting 1st & 2nd gears when gearbox is cold or hot. It takes a bit of persuasion to select. Spoke to a couple of gearbox reconditioning companies today who both told me to use Devron 2 ATF fluid in the box as standard gearbox oil is no good. I have had 75w/90 in it as suggested in the Sierra Haynes manual. They say to drain this out and replace with Devron yet others on here say otherwise?
Anybody want to throw any expert advice into the pot?
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omega 24 v6

posted on 30/6/08 at 09:17 PM Reply With Quote
I've used ep 75 90 GL4 and I DID NOT use halfrauds.
They wantes £7 ish a litre for their own brand. I also needed axle oil so for 4 litres I'd have been £28
I used a local shop (JRD in ellon for you local lads) who were selling the comma stuff for £2.99/ltr.
A saving of £16





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sebastiaan

posted on 1/7/08 at 08:55 AM Reply With Quote
I'm also using ATF in my 30 quid type 9 box. It's coupled to an EFI pinto and has done around 3K miles without problems. The gearchange is superb using ATF, although i have not ever used the "proper" oil to begin with.

So if you do use ATF, it won't destroy the box within the first few miles.....

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britishtrident

posted on 2/7/08 at 10:33 AM Reply With Quote
Do not use an EP (extreme presuure sometimes called "hypoid" gear oil oil for complete fill --- use a gear oil without EP additive.

A good multigrade semi-synthetic or full synthetic GL4 gear oil is ideal. -- Castrol Syntrax Universal 75w-90

EP oils are only for RWD drive cars with hypoid final drives and have shed loads of EP additive --- not a good thing in a synchromes gearbox.


MTX type oils for transnverse gearboxes have EP additive but not as much as Hypoid EP oils.

ATF is really a thin gear oil with similar ammounts of EP additive to MTX oils and anti foaming agents and friction additive (shulphur).

[Edited on 2/7/08 by britishtrident]

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britishtrident

posted on 2/7/08 at 10:37 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by omega 24 v6
I've used ep 75 90 GL4 and I DID NOT use halfrauds.
They wantes £7 ish a litre for their own brand. I also needed axle oil so for 4 litres I'd have been £28
I used a local shop (JRD in ellon for you local lads) who were selling the comma stuff for £2.99/ltr.
A saving of £16


The final drive requires a full EP (Hypoid) GL5 oil such as Castrol Castrol EPX80w-90 gear oil





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omega 24 v6

posted on 2/7/08 at 08:35 PM Reply With Quote
quote:

The final drive requires a full EP (Hypoid) GL5 oil such as Castrol Castrol EPX80w-90 gear oil



Yep I bought 2 litres of gl4 and 2 litres of gl5 (should have siad that really)





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