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David Jenkins

posted on 30/8/07 at 05:54 PM Reply With Quote
Type 9 gearbox variants?

How can I identify which variant of Type 9 gearbox I've got, now that it's nowhere near the original car? Is there any sort of external marking, or can I tell by taking the cover off and looking for clues?

The one I've got didn't come from either a V6 or a 4x4, so I only need to identify whether it's pre- or post-1987.

Apart from the volume of oil to be used, I believe that there are some variations in needle bearing types used, and other very minor differences.

(It's not the one in the car - this is one I plan to overhaul and rebuild with a longer 1st gear, for later installation).

All clues appreciated!

cheers,
David






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SeaBass

posted on 30/8/07 at 05:58 PM Reply With Quote
The V6 box the input shaft sticks out past the bellhousing - other it doesn't. Short shaft is easier to fit to most things but the V6 can handle slightly more power.

There is a difference in the main box casting that is the main way to tell early late boxes... I'm searching for some pictures to help.






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RichieW

posted on 30/8/07 at 06:35 PM Reply With Quote
I can scan and email you the classic ford article on type 9s from Feb 2007 if you like? It may take me an hour or so to dust off the scanner mind.
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RichieW

posted on 30/8/07 at 07:13 PM Reply With Quote
Take a look in my photo archive in the folder named gearbox...


Should help a bit.

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David Jenkins

posted on 30/8/07 at 07:13 PM Reply With Quote
Richie,

That will be VERY useful - thanks. I've got the Haynes gearbox manual which is fairly detailed, but you can't beat an independent viewpoint!

SeaBass - I think Ritchie's info will be sufficient - but if it isn't I'll get back to you... thanks.

[Edited on 30/8/07 by David Jenkins]






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ditchlewis

posted on 30/8/07 at 07:30 PM Reply With Quote
the gear box was from a black sierra 1.6 LX. F~~~ HFD the shell of which is well and truley crushed. see u2u for full reg.

this clarevoyant stuff is good.

F would make it a 1987 would it not?

Ditch

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David Jenkins

posted on 30/8/07 at 07:57 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ditchlewis
F would make it a 1987 would it not?



Sod's law - guess which year they changed the internals? That's right, 1987! Any Sierra made at that time could have either type of box...

Still, Ritchie's pictures should help me out.

cheers,
David

PS: Did you get that car started?

[Edited on 30/8/07 by David Jenkins]






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Mr G

posted on 30/8/07 at 11:38 PM Reply With Quote
For an external identification of the uprated casings (which 'might' signify uprated internals) I posted a few pics and info

HERE

Eit: Just seen the RichieW links above, must check the whole thread nextime before posting

G

[Edited on 30/8/07 by Mr G]

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David Jenkins

posted on 31/8/07 at 07:02 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks to all!

It looks like I've got the later box and extension, which is generally a good thing. At least I know how much oil it will need when it's finished!








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SeaBass

posted on 31/8/07 at 09:26 AM Reply With Quote
Ha just read the post that was linked to. No wonder I couldn't get 1.9litres of bloody oil into it!

Also hadn't realised that the bearing change was age rather than model related.

Cheers






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James

posted on 31/8/07 at 10:10 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RichieW
Take a look in my photo archive in the folder named gearbox...


Should help a bit.


Interesting stuff, cheers Richie!


James





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