nick205
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| posted on 26/9/07 at 09:28 PM |
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cable vs hydraulic clutch - pros and cons
As per title really, what are the benefits or otherwise of a hydraulic clutch over a cable set-up?
Wieght, Reliability, PeadalTravel/Feel ???
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nitram38
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| posted on 26/9/07 at 09:33 PM |
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If you can get an unmodified standard clutch cable to fit, go with that. At least you will able to replace it cheaply, rather than have one re-made if
it snaps.
If you have to have one made, then a hydraulic clutch is the way to go because again you should be able to make one from standard parts.
I have gone hydraulic on both my projects because of a rear engine set up.
The F1-2 pedal feels the same as any other clutch.
[Edited on 26/9/2007 by nitram38]
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 27/9/07 at 07:02 AM |
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Im using a hydraulic clutch but only because the donor came with it.
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 27/9/07 at 11:24 AM |
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A hydraulic clutch always feels nicer than even a new cable clutch IMO. This difference becomes huge once the cable ages.
A cable needs some kind of adjustment, either manual or some kind of automatic system that will inevitably not work or fail totaly.
A cable has to have a relatively straight run to the clutch in order to have any chance of a reasonable life, a hydraulic system can have quite tight
bends made in the copper and flexi pipes.
A coaxial hydraulic system means no levers poking out of the bellhousing, which can give more clearance on a Locost and allow you to mount the engine
further back.
The main advantages of a cable system are cheapness and simplicity.
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lsdweb
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| posted on 27/9/07 at 11:43 AM |
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Or a pull rod clutch.......
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nick205
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| posted on 27/9/07 at 01:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
A hydraulic clutch always feels nicer than even a new cable clutch IMO. This difference becomes huge once the cable ages.
A cable needs some kind of adjustment, either manual or some kind of automatic system that will inevitably not work or fail totaly.
A cable has to have a relatively straight run to the clutch in order to have any chance of a reasonable life, a hydraulic system can have quite tight
bends made in the copper and flexi pipes.
A coaxial hydraulic system means no levers poking out of the bellhousing, which can give more clearance on a Locost and allow you to mount the engine
further back.
The main advantages of a cable system are cheapness and simplicity.
That's the kind of info I'm after. The hydraulic (I assumes) clutch in my Leon still feels like new after 80k, but the cable one in
SWMBO's Pug feels terrible after 66k.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 27/9/07 at 04:19 PM |
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I use hydraulic jobbies on my projects now.
Concentric hydraulic is definitely the way to go until it leaks or fails, then its gearbox out time!!
That's what I am using on my locost and it has excellent feel.
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 27/9/07 at 10:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by lsdweb
Or a pull rod clutch.......
That's a neat solution, but I'd suspect the engine mounts would have to be reasonably stiff to avoid a mushy pedal and the engine moving
when you put your foot on the clutch.
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lsdweb
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| posted on 27/9/07 at 10:18 PM |
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quote:
That's a neat solution, but I'd suspect the engine mounts would have to be reasonably stiff to avoid a mushy pedal and the engine moving
when you put your foot on the clutch.
Solid!
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Micael
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| posted on 28/9/07 at 07:08 PM |
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I use the pull rod setup and i have my engine on rubber mounts.
It's a simple, cheap and light system, and it works perfekt.
Micael Moose Åman
Petrolhead and all around nice guy
"Don't leave the duck there. It's totally irresponsible. Put it on the swing, it'll have much more fun." //Sleep Talkin Man Dec 23
2009
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