ditchlewis
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| posted on 28/1/08 at 01:13 PM |
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Type 9 1st to 2nd change
I was out for a drive on Saturday afternoon and I tried to pull on to the A12. I put the car in 1st and launched it…       when I tried for
2nd it just would not go into gear, in after a second or two I just put it in third and floored it…     Thank god for a light powerful car, and
I was soon pulling away from all other traffic.    
This problem only occurs when I try and change gears very fast.
Is this a common problem ie it’s a slow old box?
It syncro is getting tired – there is no grinding?
It would be better if I started in second as first is too low?
it performs normally when being treated with some respect but it has happened twice now at the same junction when I try for a fast change.
  
are there any common problems or downsides to the type 9?
Any ideas of or is it just my bad driving.    
Ditch   
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Mole
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| posted on 28/1/08 at 01:18 PM |
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I read somewhere (not sure where) that type 9's don't like quick changes. Someone else will need to clarify though.
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ditchlewis
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| posted on 28/1/08 at 01:21 PM |
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Thought it might be         i'm just going to have to try and be a little more sympathetic with it...... NAH   
ditch   
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coozer
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| posted on 28/1/08 at 01:27 PM |
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It's cause its a long way from 1st to 2nd and if the gear sticks too short... well, get my drift?       
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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ditchlewis
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| posted on 28/1/08 at 01:31 PM |
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Oh     does length matter then         
i did cut it short so it would fit under the dash    
and first is a bit of a stretch.
ditch   
[Edited on 28/1/08 by ditchlewis]
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nick205
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| posted on 28/1/08 at 01:47 PM |
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I have the same issue....
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=70835
...I did check the oil level which was OK, but didn't bother changing it.
After nearly 3k miles I have got used to it and can usually get a clean shift reasonably quickly. Pulling off in 2nd also helps greatly and IMHO
doesn't do your outright acceleration any harm either by skipping a gear change particularly in the damp/wet.
[Edited on 28/1/08 by nick205]
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ditchlewis
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| posted on 28/1/08 at 01:56 PM |
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i'm glad i'm not the only one  
i do find i get a lot of wheel spin when i use 1st        prehaps just using 2nd would be best   
ditch   
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dan__wright
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| posted on 28/1/08 at 02:23 PM |
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perfect excuse to go BEC
*hides*
FREE THE ROADSTER ONE…!!
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skippad
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| posted on 28/1/08 at 02:34 PM |
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The best upgrade i did to my indy was to get a TransX straight cut close ratio box with a long first gear.
First gear is 2.25 which is good for nearly 60mph, and the other ratios are just in the right 'zone'.
Fitted with a quaiffe quick shift, makes a very positive short gearchanges.
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whitestu
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| posted on 28/1/08 at 03:15 PM |
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Mine's fine - haven't caught it out yet.
Stu
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coozer
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| posted on 28/1/08 at 03:22 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by dan__wright
perfect excuse to go BEC
*hides*
Usual BEC hijack!       
Can we start a poll?
1. How many BEC gearboxes have fallen to bits?
Answers on an A3 piece of paper please.
2. How many car gearboxes have given up the ghost?
Answers on a postage stamp please.
        
[Edited on 28/1/08 by coozer]
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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whitestu
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| posted on 28/1/08 at 04:48 PM |
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quote:
1. How many BEC gearboxes have fallen to bits?
The BEC boys are quite used to pushing their cars backwards so pushing forwards when the gearbox explodes shouldn't be too hard! 
Having said that I suspect I'd have one given half a chance!
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 28/1/08 at 06:42 PM |
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Use semi synthetic gear oil , it will improve the gear change no end. BGH Gear tech don't recommend a quick shift with a type 9 due to weak
baulk rings/synchros. If you think it may be the box I will have one for sale shortly when I fit my BGH box
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Peteff
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| posted on 28/1/08 at 07:12 PM |
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When mine went notchy the three bolts holding the gearlever on had come loose.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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ditchlewis
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| posted on 29/1/08 at 09:05 AM |
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i will check the bolts    
generally it is not notchey, but it can be beaten.   i will just have to take things slower       
ditch   
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