mcerd1
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| posted on 4/6/14 at 07:58 AM |
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Originally posted by stevebubs
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Originally posted by Norfolkluegojnr
What diesel was used in the Omega? that was RWD as standard so might be a bit easier to convert.
Wiki tells me its the X20DTH or X25TD depending on what flavour you're after.
Omega had a BMW engine.
someone had one of them in a scimitar a while back - looked like a fairly strait forward swap too 
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redscamp
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| posted on 5/6/14 at 07:02 PM |
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what type of rv eagle is it? cortina, sierra, 4x4 baesed ?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/29124231@N06/14325175536/
Ldv r380 gearbox fitted to a cortina based rv eagle .the standard ldv stick reaches to the windscreen.
this gearbox uses a hydralic clutch, i cant see an easy way to fit a slave cylinder to a cortina pedal box.
also note the position of the original cortina gearstick hole.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/29124231@N06/14353874355/
the xud turbo (no ecu) and the mk1 & 2 mondeo 1.8 turbo diesels (ecu) have their turbos on the right hand side.
this brings the turbo close to the steering shaft.
both engines standard sumps are not rwd cross member frendly.
this wont be problem in an eagle.
(the xud has its oil pump in the sump so little scope for reshaping)
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spegru
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| posted on 11/6/14 at 08:26 PM |
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Well I've gone and done it.
I chose a Mondeo 2.0 TDCI turbodiesel
To this I have added a RWD Transit AKA MT75 gearbox that fits perfectly
I've even hung it all together inside the Eagle RV engine bay and it looks OK
I just need to sort
Engine mountings (welding needed methinks)
Prop shaft
Exhaust
And that tricky ECU business. Still, Ive done a RWD Zetec using factory ECU so I'm hoping this works in a similar-ish way
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Ugg10
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| posted on 11/6/14 at 08:34 PM |
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Nice one, is that the 130 Hp engine?
Sounds like a cracking project and both usable and decently quick (for an eagle), should be quick.
For £350 you can chip it and get another 35hp. That would be very tempting.
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1968 Ford Anglia 105e, 1.7 Zetec SE, Mk2 Escort Workd Cup front end, 5 link rear
Build Blog - http://Anglia1968.weebly.com
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spegru
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| posted on 12/6/14 at 09:35 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by redscamp
what type of rv eagle is it? cortina, sierra, 4x4 baesed ?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/29124231@N06/14325175536/
Ldv r380 gearbox fitted to a cortina based rv eagle .the standard ldv stick reaches to the windscreen.
this gearbox uses a hydralic clutch, i cant see an easy way to fit a slave cylinder to a cortina pedal box.
also note the position of the original cortina gearstick hole.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/29124231@N06/14353874355/
the xud turbo (no ecu) and the mk1 & 2 mondeo 1.8 turbo diesels (ecu) have their turbos on the right hand side.
this brings the turbo close to the steering shaft.
both engines standard sumps are not rwd cross member frendly.
this wont be problem in an eagle.
(the xud has its oil pump in the sump so little scope for reshaping)
I only just saw this - after my previous post
The Eagle RV is a Sierra based one, and the previous engine had a hydraulic clutch. I think the Transit box does too which should be handy
Gear stick is a long way from the hole in the floor but I think you can get extensions for the MT75
there is no cross member pe se but there is a rearward facing anti roll bar which is a bit of a nuicance. Im thinking of moving it to the front by
swapping left and right lower suspension arms and welding on some suitable brackets under the front bumper.
Is there any way to upload pictures on this site? I can't see one....
[Edited on 12/6/14 by spegru]
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spegru
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| posted on 12/6/14 at 09:36 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ugg10
Nice one, is that the 130 Hp engine?
Sounds like a cracking project and both usable and decently quick (for an eagle), should be quick.
For £350 you can chip it and get another 35hp. That would be very tempting.
Yep 130BHP. Wouldnt be far off the old Rover V8 that used to be in it!
I'm just trying to optimise the position of it as it's a big heavy lump and although it's not a sports car, I would like to be able
to go round corners!
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Ugg10
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| posted on 12/6/14 at 10:49 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by spegru
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Originally posted by redscamp
Is there any way to upload pictures on this site? I can't see one....
[Edited on 12/6/14 by spegru]
Easiest way is to use a photo sharing site like Flickr (or photobucket) and then cut an paste the BBCODE link to the picture in the text edit window
(usually in the extended share options).
I use Flickr which is free, has 1Tb of JPEG and small movie (very limited) storage, gives you control over access (public, friends and no-one) and you
can limit the picture size people who have access can download. I have approx 20k photos on there and have only use about 8% of my allocation !
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1968 Ford Anglia 105e, 1.7 Zetec SE, Mk2 Escort Workd Cup front end, 5 link rear
Build Blog - http://Anglia1968.weebly.com
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DW100
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| posted on 12/6/14 at 11:28 AM |
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Try to use as many components for the same vehicle as possible.
Injectors will be coded to the ECU etc.
Try to replicate the fuel system as best you can with in tank pump filters, fuel heater, cooler, filter and returns etc.
Fuel quality and filtering will be critical to reliability.
Things like road speed signal may be more difficult as it probably comes from the ABS via CAN network
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Benzine
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| posted on 12/6/14 at 07:38 PM |
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Nice to hear you've got an engine/box sorted so fast. This thread needs pics 
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spegru
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| posted on 13/6/14 at 11:41 AM |
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I think a problem has just emerged.
The reason for choosing a transit box was for additional certainty that the bellhousing would match
However it looks like I may have a problem with the gear lever since that is about a third of the way up from the tail of the gbox rather than being
on an extension like most other MT75. From Pics on the web it looks like the castings are different.
Any ideas? Otherwise the gear lever will be under the windscreen!
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spegru
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| posted on 13/6/14 at 01:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by spegru
I think a problem has just emerged.
The reason for choosing a transit box was for additional certainty that the bellhousing would match
However it looks like I may have a problem with the gear lever since that is about a third of the way up from the tail of the gbox rather than being
on an extension like most other MT75. From Pics on the web it looks like the castings are different.
Any ideas? Otherwise the gear lever will be under the windscreen!
Ah no! Comes of looking at internet pics too much instead of looking in the garage!
In fact mine has a very short extension piece to the back of the gbox.
It's not like this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/360615448806?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=108&device=c&adtype=pla
&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=108&ff19=0
It's like this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Transit-2000-2006-2-4-TDCi-5speed-MT75-3-bolt-gearbox-12-months-guarantee-/121178446983?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarPar
ts_SM&hash=item1c36cc5c87
Shows there are some others out there that may be less suitable. I was lucky to get the right one since I had no idea about that
So I guess mine is more like a 'normal' one and perhaps I need to get a sierra extension piece - unless someone has a better
suggestion.......
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spegru
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| posted on 18/5/15 at 11:37 AM |
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Back onto it
The project has languished on the drive for a few months so I need to get going with it again.
So the engine/ box is mounted and having fitted a Sierra gearl lever extension instead of the short transit one I even have a geal lever coming out in
the right place
So my next trick will be to get it running.
Since I've gone the Ford ECU route on our Zetec Dutton I've been hoping it will be similar. 48 wires come out of the engine loom. You can
guess a few eg 12v permanent, 12v constant, Earth, Rev Counter, Key Chip detector (x4), glow plug working, Oil Pressure warning, Temp Guage etc etc
and there there are quite a few of those that match colours with the Zetec but anyway Ive now ordred a Mondo TDCI Haynes Manual for the wiring
diagrams to reduce the uncertainty/guessing.
If it works out I might even gues a prop shaft!
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