interestedparty
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| posted on 5/1/03 at 07:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ijohnston99
LT77 (Weak and hard to find)
Don't agree with that. LT77's survive well behind many a tuned Rover V8. Last one I sold for £120 complete with bellhousing, they are about if you
look, try the classifieds on
http://www.rover-v8.co.uk
John
As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list-- I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed-- who never would be missed!
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dougal
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| posted on 5/1/03 at 10:11 PM |
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here we go
vx 20xe 16v finaly should be running qed direct to head tbs and emerald ecu (any comments) and suitable cams, pistons etc. aiming at around 230 bhp
and awsome throttle response.
volvo 240 de dion axle with sierra disc brake hubs and xr4 lsd 3.6:1.
no frills stripped out alloy and cf body.
aprox 500kg hopfully and 0-60 in around 4sec according to similar caterham.
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ewanspence
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| posted on 7/1/03 at 10:56 AM |
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Ford 2.8 v6 4x4
Ford 2.8 170 bhp 750kg 4x4 and 2 LSD's. Using Alans formula it should be around 6 secs 0-60 (5.5644154420499116491226181285678 to be exact) which is
what I would have predicted.
That ties in well with my MX6 which is 1200 kg and 200bhp and 0-60 of 7.5
Alan, What formula should I use to include the 2 LSDs and the 4x4!!! Are they going to improve the 0-60 time?
[Edited on 7/1/03 by ewanspence]
Ewan.
Visit the MegaGrip site :-
http://www.geocities.com/ewanspence/
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Simon
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| posted on 7/1/03 at 11:45 AM |
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Rover (P6) V8 - 164bhp standard engine. LT77 box. Will eventually replace cam/carb, hoping (homemade) exhaust more freeflowing, so s/be just about 200
bhp.
Guestimating weight at 502kg.
P/W ratio s/be approx 400bhp/tonne
Sierra Cosworth was about 160. Take a guess on performance, but should be able to upset a few expensive "sportscars"
ATB
Simon
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kamikaze
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| posted on 7/1/03 at 01:47 PM |
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My car is under construction...But..
1.6 CVH engine with MCcarburators, TYP 9 gear box, volvo 240 rear axle, volvo 164 frontbrakes, (volvo parts is very common and cheap in sweden, but
the engines is to big and heavy).
"Bones heal and chicks dig scars. Pain is temporary,but glory is forever."
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Alan B
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| posted on 7/1/03 at 02:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ewanspence
.....Alan, What formula should I use to include the 2 LSDs and the 4x4!!! Are they going to improve the 0-60 time?
Ewan, the formula is based on a study of many real life examples and then an average was derived...the cars with better traction and/or better gearing
(for accel.) wiil usually do better than the formula....and of course vice-versa...
So you will probably do better I'd say
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 7/1/03 at 07:10 PM |
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900+ people on the site, and only 34 or so have engines in their cars according to this topic
atb
steve
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Sideways 2 Victory
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| posted on 7/1/03 at 07:36 PM |
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Make mine a:
1660 711m crossflow block
Vulcan Maxflow 1 head.
Steel rocker gear
Lightened and balanced.
Twin 40 Dellorto DHLA carbs
Aldon Performance distrubor c/w lumenition
Hoping to find 115 bulletproof hp (somewhere)
The cars built as a race chassis so hope to be under 600 kg road legal.
Cheers
Dave
www.nurburgring.org
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chrisg
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| posted on 7/1/03 at 08:25 PM |
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quote:
900+ people on the site, and only 34 or so have engines in their cars according to this topic
Steve it's a secret!
I can't tell you for security reasons -
Social security reasons.
Cheers
Chris
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 7/1/03 at 10:53 PM |
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ok, mr pinto - is it cos you dont want to say you are on your second engine  - still feel sorry for your setback there. Last thing I want to do on
my build is frig with the engine. Ran nice in the donor - its been cleaned and painted and thats the way it will stay until the car is finished.
900+ members.........
I remeber when there was only 220 or so when I joined last Feb, and beer was only sixpence a pint
im not that old btw!
beer will probably be 10,000 galactic yartis by the time the car is done 
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chrisg
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| posted on 7/1/03 at 11:20 PM |
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Mine ran fine in the donor, and in the Locost for a while.
Yes it's a Pinto, I measured the bore on the second engine and it's the same as the first one, works out at 2096cc (both overbored) cam described as
fast road, don't know what that means. ITG filter
BHP? don't know! it's 98 as standard, what do you reckon, another 20 with the mods? possibly
I don't care - fast enough for me and my old reflexes.
Cheers
Chris
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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kingr
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| posted on 8/1/03 at 12:42 PM |
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Just out of interest, I applied Alan's formula to my "normal" car - a VW polo 16v, weighing in at approx 1100Kgs, producing 100bhp.
5.814*(log(2420\100) = 8.0. It's booked at around 10 seconds, which I'd say is a little on the high side, but not a vast ammount (I've never
accurately tested it or taken it to the limiter (I like my engine the way it is)). Having read an article on the Puma Racing site about car
performance simulators, I seem to recall that he uses a factor in the equation for the drive type, which would probably give a more realistic answer.
In it's current state it's probably pretty accurate for locost style stuff but rather less for lower performance, FWD stuff. Good work all the same
though Alan.
Kingr
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Simon
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| posted on 8/1/03 at 05:02 PM |
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Chaps,
Just been really sad.
Using Alan B's formula (hope you didn't mind Alan), I've done a spreadsheet of 0 -60 times for cars with weights between 425 to 800 kgs, and power
100 to 500 bhp.
And saved it in the photo archive.
Enjoy
ATB
Simon
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ijohnston99
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| posted on 8/1/03 at 05:41 PM |
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Great. So what will give me 500bhp and 425kg's???
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Alan B
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| posted on 8/1/03 at 09:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by kingr
......In it's current state it's probably pretty accurate for locost style stuff but rather less for lower performance, FWD stuff. Good work all the
same though Alan.
Kingr
I'm sure that is correct as all the cars I use used for the data collection where in the higher performance range between 3 and 7 sec 0-60
times.....within that range it doesn't seem ar out with gearing and traction being the biggest uncertainties.
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Alan B
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| posted on 8/1/03 at 09:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon
Chaps,
Just been really sad.
Using Alan B's formula (hope you didn't mind Alan), I've done a spreadsheet of 0 -60 times for cars with weights between 425 to 800 kgs, and power
100 to 500 bhp.
And saved it in the photo archive.
Enjoy
ATB
Simon
Nice job....no sadder than me in the first place
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Alistair Mc
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| posted on 9/1/03 at 11:48 AM |
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Engine ford 2.9i v6, sierra running gear, not finished so I have no idea of performance.
regards all
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Dunc
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 09:36 AM |
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1600 pinto, 2.0i 8v dohc, 2.8v6, 2.9v6 and 200sx. Don't know about performance yet, but I'm hoping the 200sx will give me enuf to scare me shitless,
with and without the trailer I'm planning. Don't think I'll tune it as high as hicosts though, thats astronaut stuff.
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kingr
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 11:47 AM |
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Five engines in one car? I thought fitting a V8 in there was fairly crazy, but that just takes the biscuit!!! 
Kingr
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Dunc
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 12:03 PM |
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Making a few for friends and family, I'll do a head to head then decide whats the fastest and that'll be the one I'm having. All the effort I've
put in for the body and suspension doesn't make it viable for just one. Make it for £250 but spent 20000000e20 hours doing it.
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mark_rayfield
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| posted on 11/1/03 at 02:09 PM |
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Just so I'm not one of the engineless wondercar owners.....
1300 x-flow along with bog standard escort running gear. Keeping it small due to cost - also it'll be the first car I've ever driven with anything
like genuine performance. Hoping to upgrade to a 1600 later on.
Nowhere near finished yet so any ideas of times or weights are only dreams!
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Jim
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| posted on 11/1/03 at 07:44 PM |
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Mk Indy Blade. Sierra running gear, LSD. Approx 470 Kg and 135 bhp (110 at back wheels).
0 - 60 best so far 5 seconds. But I was learning how to drive it then never timed it since.
Jim
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Mark H
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| posted on 12/1/03 at 02:29 AM |
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Just picked up 1700 (ex Caterham) X Flow today. Hi lift cam, lightened flyheel etc.
Good for 135BHP - anyone any idea of 0 to 60 time?
Should be fast, AND gets fire from exhaust!!
Mark Harrison and
Q986 KCP back from the dead...
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Findlay234
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| posted on 13/1/03 at 04:54 PM |
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well according to alans formula(and an assumtion of 550kgs for the total car weight) an approx calculation of 0-60 would be 5.5 sec. but with
lightened flywheel you may find a couple a tenths faster.
cheers
fin
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thetankwad
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| posted on 14/1/03 at 08:23 PM |
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hmm, 120 bhp at flywheel from 1.4 litre turbo. those are manufacture specs though, and i'm proposing a different diff and g/box from the standard, so
the 8ish second 0-60 may differ. Engines from a Renault 5 turbo, and box will be from (dont laugh) a 340 volvo...
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