hughpinder
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| posted on 11/12/08 at 10:55 AM |
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clutch or master cylinder/slave problem?
Coming to work this morning and had a couple of notchy changes followed by the inability to get in or out of gear. I could get out of gear and
occasionally back in but very difficult to move the gear lever. When I stopped it was impossible to get back into gear, so I started in 2nd and drove
the remaining 21 miles to work in that gear. If you depress the clutch pedal fully, there is some horrible vibration. The car has done 170k, but the
clutch was changed when I had a gearbox problem at 128k(and the original was only half way through its specified wear limit). The garage has just
phoned to say it needs a new clutch, but I think its more likely to be a master/slave cylinder problem? What do you think?
When I dropped the car I gave it to one of the mechanics rather than 'the boss' who said ' Oh yeah, these civics are notorious for
the slave cylinder failing'
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r1_pete
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| posted on 11/12/08 at 11:27 AM |
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Fluid could have leaked away, could really be either slave or master.
The horrible vibration you speak of, would lead one to suspect the thrust bearing, guessing is a concentric job, the bearing face could have worn
away and the unit 'fallen' to peices....
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hughpinder
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| posted on 11/12/08 at 12:29 PM |
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I checked the fluid - all present and correct. I think you may be right about the thrust bearing. In the end I guess thats a new clutch then.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 11/12/08 at 12:41 PM |
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Didn't need stripped to spot what is wrong, pretty obvious the release bearing has broken up and damaged the fingers on pressure plate and the
possibly the fork.
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 11/12/08 at 06:33 PM |
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Do you sit in traffic with your foot on the clutch ? Thrust bearing can sieze and the fingers on the clutch diaphragm can break causing the symptoms
you have. One of the biggest causes of clutch failure
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hughpinder
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| posted on 12/12/08 at 12:28 PM |
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I don't sit in traffic with the clutch in, its one of my pet hates!(My missus does but she almost never drives this car). That's why I was
reluctant to just believe his statement that it needed a new clutch. I think he's having a strop now as I can't get him to phone back and
say whats going on..... and I need the car at the weekend.
Thanks for all ideas
Regards
Hugh
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britishtrident
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| posted on 12/12/08 at 10:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by hughpinder
I don't sit in traffic with the clutch in, its one of my pet hates!(My missus does but she almost never drives this car). That's why I was
reluctant to just believe his statement that it needed a new clutch. I think he's having a strop now as I can't get him to phone back and
say whats going on..... and I need the car at the weekend.
Thanks for all ideas
Regards
Hugh
No he is right on the nail --- a problem seen quite often on some models. Now that the big British parts manufacturers are gone the quality of
most replacement clutches and other parts is basically crap.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 12/12/08 at 10:45 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
Do you sit in traffic with your foot on the clutch ? Thrust bearing can sieze and the fingers on the clutch diaphragm can break causing the symptoms
you have. One of the biggest causes of clutch failure
Very common problem especially on Peugeots, Citreons and the smaller engined Rover that use the Pug gearbox ---- Valeo clutch with an undersized
plastic cased release bearing.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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adithorp
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| posted on 13/12/08 at 09:43 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by hughpinder
I don't sit in traffic with the clutch in, its one of my pet hates!(My missus does but she almost never drives this car). That's why I was
reluctant to just believe his statement that it needed a new clutch. I think he's having a strop now as I can't get him to phone back and
say whats going on..... and I need the car at the weekend.
Thanks for all ideas
Regards
Hugh
Sounds to me like he's told you whats going on... It needs a new clutch! He's probably having a strop because you don't believe him.
Untill you tell him to go ahead he's got a ramp tied up and a mechanic twiddling his thumbs.
Given that situation I'd push it down the bottom of the yard and get on with work from customers who do trust me.
Sorry if that sounds blunt but thats probably whats happening.
adrian
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
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