albertz
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| posted on 1/2/04 at 08:54 PM |
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Two subjects.........
Hi All,
Has anyone attempted to mate a Toyota FWD 4AGE bellhousing with a Ford T9 bellhousing? if so, can you advise or comment on the task? I know there are
conversions available from various companies, but they are all to expensive for me at the moment.
Also,
Can anyone advise as to the best course of action to get the standard TVIS inlet manifold to fit under the bonnet? I believe some people cut down the
original, although it is a complicated shape to re-align. Or what is involved in fabricating a new one from scratch? What are the important
factors?
Any help appreciated.
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Findlay234
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| posted on 2/2/04 at 11:38 AM |
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Theres a lot of science behind getting an inlet manifold just perfect but i dont think thats a real problem in a car like this. You want to get it on
the road more than anything.
Try and speak to Eddy mcClemments about it, hes done his own.
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Stu16v
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| posted on 2/2/04 at 08:25 PM |
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I dont think joining two bellhousing together is realistic IMO, and AFAIK they are made of different metals. You may be able to get away with making
an adapter plate of say 1/4" thickness to bolt the type 9 to the Toyota, as long as the input shaft reaches the clutch/spigot bearing. Using a
Type 9 from a V6 gives you a longer input shaft length if needs be.
It will take a lot of careful measuring and cutting/drilling to ensure accuracy, but it has been done before for other engine/gearbox layouts.
They are quite rare, but the other option is to use a gearbox out of a RWD Celica.
But IMHO, for all of the p#ssing about, it might be best to save for the proper bellhousing for the job. It will certainly save you heartache, and in
the long run, it might actually save you some money too.....
Dont just build it.....make it!
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locost_bryan
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| posted on 3/2/04 at 01:28 AM |
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Try a Toyota T50 gearbox from a rwd Corolla AE86 (bolts straight on) or Celica (might need the Corolla bellhousing), or from a Liteace/Townace/Hiace
van (wider ratios, not sure about the bellhousing)
Bryan Miller
Auckland NZ
Bruce McLaren - "Where's my F1 car?"
John Cooper - "In that rack of tubes, son"
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albertz
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| posted on 3/2/04 at 09:53 AM |
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As far as I am aware, the Ford T9 bellhousing is available both cast aluminium or steel. I have an aluminium one, which is the same material as the
Toyota bellhousing.
I realise that the modification is relatively complicated, but it is definitely 'do-able' in my opinion.
My plan is to bolt the existing Toyota bellhousing to the engine, bolt the existing ford bellhousing to the T9 box, set both side by side and work out
the distance between the face of the engine and the face of the box (approximately 175mm). Decide the best place to make the join and where the
bellhousings are closest in diameter, roughly cut out with a slitting disc, then machine down to required size using a milling machine, bolt the
Toyota part to the engine and the ford part to the box, assemble the clutch and spigot bearing etc, up-end the engine on to the crank pulley end,
locate the gearbox onto the clutch and bearing, check all fits and measurements then tack together, unbolt and fully weld.
By using the Toyota bellhousing I wont have any problems with the starter, if I used a steel adapter plate then the started my become a problem?
Is there anything obvious that I may have missed??? Or problems that I haven't thought of???
If the above doesn't work, I will have to buy the items, but I have both bellhousings now, so I might as well have a try.
The Toyota clutch is 200mm diameter and the sierra clutch is 190mm diameter - I think that should work OK???
With regards to the T50 box, I have given up all hope!
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