RMarine
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| posted on 18/6/09 at 09:00 PM |
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engine mount fabrication
would ther be a reason for no making engine mounts myself?
i want to make my own engine mounts for my aries locost for a 2.0 Zetec engine.
Can you help?
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02GF74
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| posted on 18/6/09 at 09:05 PM |
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You are allowed tol make a chassis but according to the BOOK you are not supposed to make your own engine mounts.
just kidding - ofcourse you can.
I had to do this recently - I used 3 mm mild steel strips, 3 of, to weld into I shape.
The ends were bent over and another plate welded on. I have posted pictures somehwere - search for engine mounts by 02GF74.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 18/6/09 at 09:05 PM |
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Ive made my own, its not hard if you can weld.
I would use 5mm plate for the bits that bolt to the engine. There have been a few that have failed with 3mm.
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omega0684
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| posted on 18/6/09 at 09:06 PM |
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obviously wou make the make sure that you get the engine lined up stright and your welding is up to the job!
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stevegough
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| posted on 18/6/09 at 09:08 PM |
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One word - strength!
Co - incidentally, I'm at just that stage myself - engine now fits, just need to fabricate the mounts.
Now, I can weld (after a fashion) but not well - I'm just a beginner, so I'm going to leave this crucial bit of welding to a pro.
My plan is either:
1... get the steel myself, cut it to fit, tack weld it together, then take it to be welded properly.
or
2... measure and draw what I want, then as for 1, above.
To answer your question - how good is your welding?
HTH, Steve. 
Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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whitestu
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| posted on 18/6/09 at 09:21 PM |
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I'm no great welder and only have a clark 105 mig, and mine haven't broken yet.
Go fot it.
Stu
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 18/6/09 at 09:23 PM |
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Try this
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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RMarine
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| posted on 18/6/09 at 09:39 PM |
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I have never tried welding, but I was going to get a welder to learn. I know that it would be cheaper to by the mounts, but once I have learnt to weld
I can do other things. The rubber mount, what type should I use?
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clairetoo
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| posted on 18/6/09 at 10:14 PM |
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I have allways made my own engine mounts - I didnt even use the ones that came with my Fury kit cuz the engine sat too high
I use 5mm plate for the engine end , the thick walled (at least 3mm) tube , with a short piece of the same tube with a thick washer welded on one end
at the rubber mount end .
Rover v8 mounts are very good , and can be got off ebay for a fiver a pair
As for welding them yourself - just one word............practice !
Its cuz I is blond , innit
Claire xx
Will weld for food......
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 19/6/09 at 05:57 AM |
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Heres mine.
 
O/S Engine Mount
Couldnt buy any so made them my self 
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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maartenromijn
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| posted on 19/6/09 at 06:11 AM |
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The pdf from Mark show's how it's done. Before welding up, check the alignment of the engine and gearbox.
BLOG: http://thunderroad-super7.blogspot.com/
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 19/6/09 at 07:19 AM |
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Here's mine:
Hope they last!
.JPG)
3mm plate and 40mm x 2.3mm box.
JB
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 20/6/09 at 07:18 PM |
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#mine are 3mm which is the same as the brackets bolted to the block (original)
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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stevegough
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| posted on 20/6/09 at 09:13 PM |
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Engine mounts made today!!
Further to my last note, I have made my mounts today
- used 6mm for the flat plates,
3mm walled square tubing,
Land rover rubber blocks.
See more photos in my archive.
As I previously said, I am not good at welding, so they have just been tacked to hold them until a guy I know who can weld properly makes them
solid.
I am pretty pleased with them, even though I do say it myself.
Steve.  .jpg)
Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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iank
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| posted on 20/6/09 at 09:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RMarine
The rubber mount, what type should I use?
These are very cheap, easy to use and well up to any engine in a 7.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250376113124
They look the the ones used by speedyxjs and stevegough
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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iank
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| posted on 20/6/09 at 09:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Daddylonglegs
Here's mine:
Hope they last!
3mm plate and 40mm x 2.3mm box.
JB
Shouldn't there be some rubber mounts? They look solid.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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stevegough
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| posted on 20/6/09 at 09:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
quote:
Originally posted by RMarine
The rubber mount, what type should I use?
These are very cheap, easy to use and well up to any engine in a 7.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250376113124
They look the the ones used by speedyxjs and stevegough
Correct - not only are they the ones I used, but that is the ebay advert I bought them from - very, very quick service from them, too!
Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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hellbent345
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| posted on 20/6/09 at 09:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevegough
Further to my last note, I have made my mounts today
- used 6mm for the flat plates,
3mm walled square tubing,
Land rover rubber blocks.
See more photos in my archive.
As I previously said, I am not good at welding, so they have just been tacked to hold them until a guy I know who can weld properly makes them
solid.
I am pretty pleased with them, even though I do say it myself.
Steve.
did you tack those together without using any gas as a matter of interest?
Thanks Al
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stevegough
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| posted on 21/6/09 at 06:22 AM |
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I dont think so - maybe the bottle's run out ? - you are saying that because of the brown dust?
Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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Benzine
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| posted on 21/6/09 at 06:36 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevegough
I dont think so - maybe the bottle's run out ? - you are saying that because of the brown dust?
If the welds look like they have lots of craters in them, dimples like a gold ball then it'll be due to lack of gas and when you're
welding with no gas it'll tend to 'fizz' instead of 'crackle'. Well, does for me anyway!
[Edited on 21/6/09 by Benzine]
The mental gymnastics a landlord will employ to justify immoral actions is clinically fascinating. Just because something is legal doesn't make
it moral.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 21/6/09 at 10:39 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevegough
I dont think so - maybe the bottle's run out ? - you are saying that because of the brown dust?
Definitely no gas when those weld were done...no wonder you are having problems welding!
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 22/6/09 at 07:27 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
Shouldn't there be some rubber mounts? They look solid.
I've got Landrover rubbers between the mount and the lower pate
[Edited on 22/6/09 by Daddylonglegs]
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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Peteff
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| posted on 22/6/09 at 09:34 AM |
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I did mine like DLL's, you could have put another piece of the 40mm box section on top instead of the gusset plate. Does the bottom of the box
section hang off your engine plate ? better to have it all on there and put a spacer on top of or under your mount to make up the height loss.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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stevegough
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| posted on 22/6/09 at 08:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
I did mine like DLL's, you could have put another piece of the 40mm box section on top instead of the gusset plate. Does the bottom of the box
section hang off your engine plate ? better to have it all on there and put a spacer on top of or under your mount to make up the height loss.
I presume you are talking about mine? yes, the left one 'hangs off the plate by about 2mm - I will get Joel to put a fillet either of weld or a
small chunk of metal in first, then weld it. It is still going to be a solid as the Titanic!
Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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