scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 9/6/04 at 08:52 PM |
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Vauxhall XE on standard fuel system?
Hi, I was just looking into engines and am quite tempted by the Vauxhall XE, can anyone tell me what modifications need to be made to make it fit in
an Indy? Would I need to run it on carbs or will the standard system fit? Anything else i should be aware of?
Thanks
Pete
It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care...
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BMF
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| posted on 10/6/04 at 09:58 AM |
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Pete
I am about to do the same in a Luego.
I am fitting carbs, which means you can bin all the EFI and ECU bits. You need a 8v Cavalier distributor and coil and thats it.
You also need;
bellhousing adapter (£120)
sierra clutch fork
sierra clutch plate (friction plate) use vx pressure plate
spiggot bearing
inlet manifold
chopped baffled sump or new shallow sump (£150)
Have a look in the Luego section as there are a few guys who have already done it!
Hope this helps.
Oh yes, I am getting a XE with weber 45's for £600, should give 180BHP minimum!!!
Cheers Ben
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ned
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| posted on 10/6/04 at 10:36 AM |
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Looks like yo have it under control!
I would add that you can use the steel sump from an 8v vauxhall 2ltr (the sri engine) and cut and weld it yourself, which will save you £150.
another option if a manta 1.8 sump which is rwd.
Yukspeed do a weld up yourself exhaust kit of tubes for just over £100, though I think he's had them on ebay recently at £85..
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 10/6/04 at 11:19 AM |
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So it looks like I need either carbs or throttle bodies then, better get saving! maybe for christmas... 
BMF, where did you manage to find your engine?! Have they got another one?
Pete
It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care...
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ned
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| posted on 10/6/04 at 11:31 AM |
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engines regularly go on ebay for £2-300, also check out migweb, a vauxhall forum, though beware of the chavsum  ring round your local scrappies too,
you never know what they might have in...
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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BMF
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| posted on 10/6/04 at 12:42 PM |
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Pete
I am getting mine from Ace Motorsport who specialise in these, he does cheap used carbs as well.
I have found another one with only 11K on the clock that I have agreed to buy for £300, but it is a 95 so would need an emissions test!!!
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ned
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| posted on 10/6/04 at 12:48 PM |
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BMF,
be very careful that you're buying an XE and not an ecotec. I though they changed the XE for the ecotec around that time.
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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BMF
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| posted on 10/6/04 at 12:51 PM |
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Ned, have done, according to the guy it is definately a XE.
I don't think I will go for it though because of the Cat and emissions test problems it would cause over using an older engine (pre '94),
especially if I am using carbs.
What is your opinion?
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ned
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| posted on 10/6/04 at 12:57 PM |
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I'd use an earlier engine for the emissions reasons as you've already suggested. The reason why they changed the Xe for the ecotec was due
to emission regs changing. The ecotec is basically a different head on the same engine, though the port angles wer inclined further to stop over run
on the cams, hence the lower flow the ecotec head produces giving it only 138bhp as opposed to 155bhp of the XE. Expect to see more like 175-180bhp on
a decent setup of 45's though.
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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BMF
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| posted on 10/6/04 at 01:05 PM |
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Ned, thanks. Makes my decision easier! 11K miles was so tempting at £300!
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ned
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| posted on 10/6/04 at 01:11 PM |
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to be honest i'd be very sceptical of 11k on a 9 year old engine anyway..
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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BMF
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| posted on 10/6/04 at 01:13 PM |
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He bought it 6 years ago from a scrappy, (has a receipt), and never built the car!
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 10/6/04 at 01:24 PM |
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BMF, have you got any details for Ace, website etc? Do they supply the XE and carbs deal on a regular basis or have you just been lucky to find one at
the right time?
Pete
It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care...
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BMF
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| posted on 10/6/04 at 01:37 PM |
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Pete, speak to Andy, and he will sort you out.
He is not the cheapest for the engine, but he buys good ones as he re-builds them up to 270Bhp!
A C Engines, Unit E3, Ranch Farm Industrial Park, Willis Lane, Four Marks, Alton, Hants, GU34 5AP
Telephone: 01420 588178/9
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BMF
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| posted on 10/6/04 at 01:48 PM |
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Pete, This is my budget at present;
ITEM SUPPLIER COST
Donor Parts Breakers 250
Engine Ace 450
Carbs Ace 175
Carb fitting kit Yukspeed 22
Bellhousing Yukspeed 160
Bellhousing bolt Kit Yukspeed 10
Manifold QED 103
Sump QED 152
Clutch Plate Yukspeed 100
Clutch Fork Yukspeed 20
Spigot Bush Yukspeed 6
ARP Big end Bolts Yukspeed 68
Cam Belt 22
Belt tensioners x2 40
TOTAL 1578
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ned
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| posted on 10/6/04 at 01:58 PM |
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If it's of any interest, my current expenditure is listed on my website here:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/users/ned/costs/index.htm
need to update it as the bodywork price is out of date, but gives an idea of engine parts etc.
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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