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Lars

posted on 10/7/04 at 06:39 PM Reply With Quote
xflow prob

i have been trying to get my engine to start today, but it wont work.

i have got sparks at the end of the spark plug leads and i can see petrol flowing, but it still wont start.

any ideas?

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Chris_R

posted on 10/7/04 at 06:54 PM Reply With Quote
timing? Is it back-firing?

[Edited on 10/7/04 by Chris_R]





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Lars

posted on 10/7/04 at 07:03 PM Reply With Quote
engine not back-firing, and i think i set the timing right, however it is the only thing i can think of, so i'll better check it again.

dave, how can i tell if it is 180 degrees out of phase, or is it just a case of switching leads over and trying?

cheers

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Chris_R

posted on 10/7/04 at 07:10 PM Reply With Quote
you could try rotating the distributor cap to see if you get a reaction.





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millenniumtree

posted on 11/7/04 at 01:06 AM Reply With Quote
Some guys were working on an older Accord (1987?) near here, and they were putting a new distributor in. They had gotten it all in, and the engine would not start. It turned, but made no firing sounds whatsoever. I thought they may have the distributor in wrong because it was worming about like the shaft was bent. Turns out, it was indeed 180 degrees out of phase. At least for the 1 honda distributor I have seen, you can put them in either the right way, or 180 degrees off. So it's definitely worth checking!
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Lars

posted on 11/7/04 at 04:00 PM Reply With Quote
dave is right the cap only fits one way.

I think i will take the rocker cover off to check the valve movements, but i know i've got the firing order right.

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barrie sharp

posted on 12/7/04 at 07:25 AM Reply With Quote
Hi Lars i would check that you have compression in the cylinders use a compression tester in the spark plug holes
my crossflow was dead like this and i was told it was a good runner!!





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David Jenkins

posted on 12/7/04 at 07:49 AM Reply With Quote
If you want a rough guide to the dizzy position, stand on the dizzy side of the engine (starboard side!). Looking down on the dizzy, the vacuum advance capsule should be on your left facing the rear of the engine (slightly angled away from the engine by a degree or three). The two cap clips should be roughly at 11 o'clock and 5 o'clock, and No. 1 cylinder lead is roughly at 1 o'clock.

This will get you close enough to set the timing with a lamp (presuming that you still have contact breaker ignition).

Hope this helps,

David






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Lars

posted on 13/7/04 at 02:34 PM Reply With Quote
re-checked all the timing and it seems to be right, when the starter runs there is even some smoke coming out of the exhaust, but it wont fire up.

Could this be caused by using the wrong coil?

I think i'm using one from a cvh, which i'm not sure if it was contact breaker ignition, and hence giving me a weaker spark?

[Edited on 13/7/04 by Lars]

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britishtrident

posted on 13/7/04 at 04:10 PM Reply With Quote
to which to add 4 cylinder Fords (well almost all) fire 1243 not the more usual 1342
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David Jenkins

posted on 13/7/04 at 09:31 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lars
Could this be caused by using the wrong coil?



I hope that you haven't repeated my 'Doh!' moment! Originally I fitted a Valencia engine dizzy to my xflow, with a coil designed for electronic ignition, but it wouldn't work (I found out later that I'd wired it wrong). I then put back the old dizzy and the car ran like a dog - I forgot that I had an electronic ign coil fitted!

Put back the valencia dizzy, wired it correctly, and the engine ran as sweetly as anything...

David






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Lars

posted on 14/7/04 at 02:08 PM Reply With Quote
big smile

it started

changed the coil to a lucas dlb101 and charged the battery

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David Jenkins

posted on 14/7/04 at 02:12 PM Reply With Quote
Excellent news! It's a great feeling when it fires, isn't it...

David






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