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andy o

posted on 1/12/11 at 07:46 PM Reply With Quote
ok you clever b%$£ards help

i have a need to know a couple of answers to to these question

which bike throttle bodies are best for a mx5 1.8?
is the megasqiurt pnp a good investment?

thats it
thanks
andy

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big-vee-twin

posted on 1/12/11 at 07:56 PM Reply With Quote
GSXR 600 or 750.

I would use the MS2 V3 with extra code, and if you can solder ok, build your own.





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andy o

posted on 1/12/11 at 08:18 PM Reply With Quote
thanks for that
any year for the bike which is best
i am a points and plug age and am not sure of buying a kit which you solder together
how hard is it?

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coyoteboy

posted on 1/12/11 at 08:28 PM Reply With Quote
Piece of cake if you can follow instructions word for word and if you have some basic care and thought. Our first year students take about 8 hours to build one with a mistake or two (found during the instructions own test procedures), I reckon I could do the build and test in about 2 hours now once all the parts are laid out in order but it might be a bit scrappy. Buy one of the cheap maplin kits that you have to solder-assemble and use that to learn. If you can do that right you can probably do an MS - it's all through-hole and fairly robust.

[Edited on 1/12/11 by coyoteboy]

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big-vee-twin

posted on 1/12/11 at 08:29 PM Reply With Quote
From a 2000/2001 bike as they split easy into individual parts.

Building one is very straight forward I found, but I have soldered before. I suppose it could be quite daunting if you've not done this type of work before, but the instructions are very clear and every component clearly labelled and the circuit board clearly labelled too.

Dont know much about the PNP stuff but a MS2 V3 fully built would do the job.

Have a look at the Extra EFI site too, I assume your looking at the Autotune site







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big-vee-twin

posted on 1/12/11 at 08:32 PM Reply With Quote
Here's a picture of mine finished and sprayed with conformal coating


[img] MS Internals
MS Internals
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andy o

posted on 1/12/11 at 08:47 PM Reply With Quote
my project is putting a mx5 engine box diff brakes hubs etc into a mg midget.
the fabrication is going very well and ahead of plan(welder fabricator by trade)
as i understand the pnp can replace the mx5 ecu so no extra wiring
so i can use the mx wiring loom
not sure about the bike throttle bodies but i am sure someone on here will help when it comes to wiring
what and from were do i buy a kit megasquirt?
any rolling roads who can tune this set up in east anglia?

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Ben_Copeland

posted on 1/12/11 at 09:03 PM Reply With Quote
Phil @ extraefi will sell you a made megaquirt ms1 /ms2/ ms3.

or buy the kit / PNP from DIYAutoTune





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whitestu

posted on 1/12/11 at 09:31 PM Reply With Quote
The prices for complete MSs are pretty good on DIY Autotune as well.

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Ben_Copeland

posted on 1/12/11 at 09:45 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
The prices for complete MSs are pretty good on DIY Autotune as well.

Stu


But don't forget you have to add tax and shipping duty onto their prices plus postage. Bumps the price up a lot, not sure on the comparison with Phil tho





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scudderfish

posted on 2/12/11 at 07:04 AM Reply With Quote
Plus Phil gives excellent UK based service. I sent my ECU back to him for a check over (turns out the problem was in my loom, not the ECU), and it was back in my car within a few days. If you are uneasy about building it, get one from http://www.extraefi.co.uk

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D Beddows

posted on 2/12/11 at 08:33 AM Reply With Quote
You don't really need to pay a premium for a a PNP - all that actually is is a normal Megasquirt with an MX5 ECU connector incorporated into it. MX5 ECUs can be found for £10-15 quid on ebay if you keep looking - take the connector off , add a few bits of wire and bob's your aunties whatever
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big-vee-twin

posted on 2/12/11 at 09:17 AM Reply With Quote
Autotune still cheaper including shipping and tax

[Edited on 2/12/11 by big-vee-twin]





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BaileyPerformance

posted on 2/12/11 at 09:51 PM Reply With Quote
Hello,

I would (and do!) buy a ready built MS2 V3.0 from Phil. I can't see the point in buying a kit when you would be doing well to save £25 after you have paid the import duty, if your interested in building an ECU for satisfaction then fair play!

Steer clear of the PnP if i was you, they do the job but power and grounding via the factory loom is not suitable for megasquirt, the factory ECU is far better than MS regarding power conditioning so is less sensitive to poor wiring.
The last one i mapped i split the ground and power wires from the PnP plug and rewired from clean supply. (was getting the odd jitter on the dyno, TPS noise mainly)

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coozer

posted on 3/12/11 at 12:46 PM Reply With Quote
Pull out a little bit more and get an Omex, it will save you money in the long run....





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BaileyPerformance

posted on 3/12/11 at 03:12 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coozer
Pull out a little bit more and get an Omex, it will save you money in the long run....


Megasquirt over omex any day, i have mapped a good few omex ecus and 30+ megasquirts.
Omex is not as flexible as megasquirt and the tuning software (map3000) is not a patch on tuner studio for MS.

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