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ChrisS

posted on 29/8/04 at 07:33 PM Reply With Quote
Looking for a rare engine.

A mate of mine has asked me to see if anyone has or knows the location of an engine.

Its called a Coventry Climax and apparently can be found in either a Sunbeam Stiletto or where sometimes used in racing Hillman Imps.

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Mark Allanson

posted on 29/8/04 at 07:39 PM Reply With Quote
You will also find it in the Talbot Sunbeam 1.0 attached to a RWD gearbox, Some fire pumps used it . I think all imps used it and some early Lotus's





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phelpsa

posted on 29/8/04 at 07:43 PM Reply With Quote
Very nice high reving lightweight engine. 9000rpm is possible with the smallest modifications.

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rusty nuts

posted on 29/8/04 at 07:47 PM Reply With Quote
Don't know the whereabouts of one but I believe this engine was originaly used for a fire pump . One version was used in the original lotus Elite in the early 60s All of the Hillman imps/ Sunbeam Stilletos used this engine as well as the 930cc? Talbot Sunbeam I think Speedy spares down in Brighton?? advertised some Talbot engines a few months ago for not a lot of money. Hope this helps. Rusty
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ernie

posted on 29/8/04 at 07:52 PM Reply With Quote
imp engine

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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 29/8/04 at 08:00 PM Reply With Quote
Looking in my large collection of books
The coventry climax was used in the S1 super seven c FWA 1098cc
75 bhp tsp
104mph brave or stupid !
kerb weight 924 lb
Autosport 1959
Coulter MRP


http://www.imps4ever.info/tech/cov_clim.html

http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ensegb/covmax2.htm




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Peteff

posted on 29/8/04 at 08:45 PM Reply With Quote
I know someone who has 3 imps. He buys them when he sees a cheap one for spares for his runner. He got the last one this year for £40 and it only needed a wheel bearing. I think the standard Imp engine is only about 875cc. The race engines need loads of work to make them reliable when they are bored and linered to 998cc, special head gaskets are a must.

http://www.pattenengines.com/





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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andyps

posted on 29/8/04 at 09:02 PM Reply With Quote
The Coventry Climax engine was, as Mark says, originally designed as an engine for a fire pump. However, due to it's light weight, and good power output it wa quickly adopted by racers and fitted to many race cars, including lots of Lotii - both road and race.





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Fifer

posted on 29/8/04 at 09:50 PM Reply With Quote
As a piece of trivia, the engine you are talking about was indeed origionally used in fire pumps and other applications but was developed into the imp engine and was the first all alloy engine in a production car. Imps were made in Scotland of all places and I recall a Hotrod Imp at the Cowdenbeath stock car track beating full race Mk!! escorts with 2000 pounds worth of Burton race tuned engines in them (that was 2k pounds in 1979 by the way !)
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Mark Allanson

posted on 29/8/04 at 09:52 PM Reply With Quote
They used to blow head gaskets about every 3 miles. I have skimmed these heads on night shift several times. They were OK if the cooling system was looked after properly, but they never were





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Viper

posted on 29/8/04 at 10:29 PM Reply With Quote
is this what you are looking for?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31353&item=2488205827&rd=1






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Hellfire

posted on 29/8/04 at 10:35 PM Reply With Quote
One of the guys from SOUTH YORKSHIRE CAPRI CLUB collects them. I know he has a few, his name is darren.... may be worth aposting on their website forum.

HTH






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Rob Lane

posted on 30/8/04 at 07:40 AM Reply With Quote
If your mate finds one from a fire pump on the surplus market, make sure he checks crankshaft end.
Some were for sale at reasonable prices but engine has a tapered shaft rather than a bolt flange for a flywheel.
Seen them for sale as new at various autojumbles.

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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 30/8/04 at 09:56 PM Reply With Quote
ENGINES: COVENTRY CLIMAX LTD.
Name: Coventry Climax Ltd.

Established in 1903 by former Daimler engineer Pulham Lee to design engines for small car companies and for specialist applications, Coventry Climax first became well known for supplying motors for the tractor used by Sir Ernest Shackleton's Antarctic Expedition in 1914. After World War I the company began supplying engines for small car companies such as Clyno and in the 1930s expanded to include Triumph, Morgan and Standard. The economic problems of the 1930s hit the business hard and Leonard Lee, who had taken over from his father, diversified into the production of water-pumping equipment for fire brigades.

After World War II the Ministry of Defence changed its requirements for fire-pumps, demanding a faster flow and lighter weight. In 1950 Leonard Lee hired Jaguar engine designer Walter Hassan to design a new pump and he produced the 1020cc Feather Weight engine, known as the FW. The engine was displayed at the Motor Show in London and attracted attention from the motor racing fraternity. Lee concluded that success in competition would lead to more customers for the company and so Hassan designed the FWA, a feather weight engine for automobiles. The first Coventry Climax racing engine appeared at the 1954 Le Mans 24 Hours in the back of a Kieft chassis but this failed to finish the event. The engine became popular in sportscar racing and was followed by a Mark II and then by an FWB which had a capacity of nearly 1.5-liters. The new Formula 2 regulations suited the 1.5-liter engine and it quickly became the engine to have in F2. The following year the first Climax engines began to appear in Formula 1 in the back of Cooper chassis. Initially these were FWBs but the FPF engine followed. Stirling Moss scored the company's first Formula 1 victory in Argentina in 1958, using a 1.9-liter version of the engine. In general terms, however, the engines were not powerful enough to compete with the 2.5-liter machinery and it was not until the 2.5-liter version of the FPF arrived in 1959 that Jack Brabham was able to win the World Championship in a Cooper-Climax. At the same time the company produced the FWE engine for the Lotus Elite and this enjoyed considerable success in sportscar racing, with a series of class wins at Le Mans in the early 1960s.

In 1961 there was a new 1.5-liter formula and the FPF engine was given a new lease of life, although the company began work on a V8 engine, designated the FWMW, and this began winning races in 1962 with Jim Clark. There would be a total of 22 Grand Prix victories before 1966 when the new 3-liter formula was introduced.

At the start of that year Coventry Climax embarked on a V16 engine but it was not a success and eventually the company announced its withdrawal from F1. The company passed on its old engines to Bob King's Racing Preparations in Wembley and Climax engines continued to appear in 1967 although the arrival of the Cosworth DFV marked the end of Climax's F1 history.

Coventry Climax had been taken over by Jaguar Cars in 1963 but in 1968 Jaguar became part of British Leyland and Coventry Climax became part of the Special Products Division, building engines for fork lift trucks and for military uses, notably the Chieftain tank. In 1986, Coventry Climax was put into receivership. The factory in Coventry was closed and the engine contracts were passed on to Horstman Defence Systems.


Source http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/gpeengines.html






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