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rincewind23

posted on 10/6/14 at 08:27 PM Reply With Quote
Custom headers

Hi all,
Starting to think about building the headers for my car, and when I was looking around on Google I came across this:

Ice Engine Works

It seems to work a bit like lego, you click them together in order to model your headers, then when you're done you have a simple, measurable model that you can then make the final metal version out of.

So the question is, has anyone come across these before? They're quite expensive for a one- (or two- ) off, although I'm sure I could shift them on ebay when I'm done. Or if anyone has some and is willing to sell/rent/loan them..

Or is there an easier way?

Cheers,
KEv.

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adithorp

posted on 10/6/14 at 08:38 PM Reply With Quote
Linky no workey.





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Slimy38

posted on 10/6/14 at 08:41 PM Reply With Quote
I don't get what you could resell though? It sounds like the kit comes with the plastic formers, but also a set of identically shaped metal parts that just get built up based on the measurements on the formers? Without the metal components the plastic formers don't help much? And there are cheaper options to prototype headers.
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Slimy38

posted on 10/6/14 at 08:41 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
Linky no workey.


http://icengineworks.com/

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rdodger

posted on 10/6/14 at 08:43 PM Reply With Quote
It looks like a great idea. But.......................

For the money you could buy a lot of stainless bends and just make it. Even if you made a lot of mistakes it would still be cheaper.

If what you are doing is really complicated you could mock it up in pipe lagging and work from there.






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ste

posted on 10/6/14 at 10:21 PM Reply With Quote
Watch this series of videos, he uses pvc plumbing fittings

part 1 http://youtu.be/j9knDsi-td8

part 2 http://youtu.be/9s1-AZcPWAA

part 3 http://youtu.be/Bc-KhMl-6ss

part 4 http://youtu.be/F-2SX7bUIlY

part 5 http://youtu.be/kPmygV8t_uo

part 6 http://youtu.be/ridE6PiN5H0

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owelly

posted on 11/6/14 at 08:38 AM Reply With Quote
I bought a few bits of flexible exhaust pipe and bent it to shape. Then ran the MIG along the tubes so it held the shape and copied it in stainless.





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mcerd1

posted on 11/6/14 at 09:02 AM Reply With Quote
I've seen things like the ones in the first link before - they are often used by manifold manufacturers in the states for 'mail order' custom manifolds
(they lend you the kit, you build what you want in plastic and send it back to them, they send you the finished metal part and an invoice with a big number on it)


they are a nice toy, but a lot of money and as above you can make something that functions just as well from cheap plumbing fittings or just go strait to steel





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matt_gsxr

posted on 11/6/14 at 09:13 AM Reply With Quote
Thought provoking.

It did make me think. "In a world where CAD doesn't exist, that would be really useful".

Alternatively, if it is just for custom examples, then.
Why not make the kit out of stainless, then you just weld that together.





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rincewind23

posted on 11/6/14 at 06:17 PM Reply With Quote
I like the set of videos from stainless headers, the idea of mocking it up with plumbing pipe seems the cheapest way to do it.

This is the first time I've tried anything like this, so I expect to make plenty of mistakes, so the push fitting and cheapness of plumbing pipe definitely appeals!

All I need to do now is read a bunch of websites and books to figure out the best length, diameter, 4-2-1 or 4-1 setup, etc. etc.

I guess if I thought this was going to be easy I wouldn't have bothered. Thanks to everyone for their comments and suggestions.

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matt5964

posted on 13/6/14 at 05:48 PM Reply With Quote
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10423819_645439978879935_5383456274210560696_n.jpg

that's a custom made headder

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coyoteboy

posted on 13/6/14 at 06:29 PM Reply With Quote
Can't help thinking a computer is going to be much easier to model it on, then chop up and spec bends for.

Even first-time engineering students don't really bugger it up enough to leave "piles of scrap metal" as their catalogue suggests they were?

[Edited on 13/6/14 by coyoteboy]






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SCAR

posted on 13/6/14 at 08:27 PM Reply With Quote
We decided the best way was to get someone else to do it

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J222jra

posted on 18/6/14 at 09:27 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by SCAR
We decided the best way was to get someone else to do it

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Who made that manifold? Looks awesome quality.

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loggyboy

posted on 18/6/14 at 09:44 AM Reply With Quote
I just bought a cheap kit (unused 2nd hand, but similar to the cheap ones on ebay). Then after playing around on sketchup and cad to get some ideas - i just cracked on.









Not as neat as a fancy tig'd pro one, but once its painted and wrapped should work quite well, and only cost me £40 in parts.





Mistral Motorsport

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SCAR

posted on 18/6/14 at 04:18 PM Reply With Quote
Nigel at NRP Exhausts in Bilsthorpe Notts made a fantastic job of ours complete from fixing plates to re packable silencer, well pleased
NRP EXHAUSTS

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Trollyjack

posted on 19/6/14 at 07:28 AM Reply With Quote
I used Tony Law Exhausts in Leeds

Top bloke he make custom headers and Exhausts to suit any thing.





TrollyJack

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