rincewind23
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posted on 10/6/14 at 08:27 PM |
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Custom headers
Hi all,
Starting to think about building the headers for my car, and when I was looking around on Google I came across this:
Ice Engine Works
It seems to work a bit like lego, you click them together in order to model your headers, then when you're done you have a simple, measurable
model that you can then make the final metal version out of.
So the question is, has anyone come across these before? They're quite expensive for a one- (or two- ) off, although I'm sure I could
shift them on ebay when I'm done. Or if anyone has some and is willing to sell/rent/loan them..
Or is there an easier way?
Cheers,
KEv.
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adithorp
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posted on 10/6/14 at 08:38 PM |
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Linky no workey.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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Slimy38
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posted on 10/6/14 at 08:41 PM |
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I don't get what you could resell though? It sounds like the kit comes with the plastic formers, but also a set of identically shaped metal
parts that just get built up based on the measurements on the formers? Without the metal components the plastic formers don't help much? And
there are cheaper options to prototype headers.
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Slimy38
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posted on 10/6/14 at 08:41 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by adithorp
Linky no workey.
http://icengineworks.com/
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rdodger
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posted on 10/6/14 at 08:43 PM |
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It looks like a great idea. But.......................
For the money you could buy a lot of stainless bends and just make it. Even if you made a lot of mistakes it would still be cheaper.
If what you are doing is really complicated you could mock it up in pipe lagging and work from there.
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ste
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posted on 10/6/14 at 10:21 PM |
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Watch this series of videos, he uses pvc plumbing fittings
part 1 http://youtu.be/j9knDsi-td8
part 2 http://youtu.be/9s1-AZcPWAA
part 3 http://youtu.be/Bc-KhMl-6ss
part 4 http://youtu.be/F-2SX7bUIlY
part 5 http://youtu.be/kPmygV8t_uo
part 6 http://youtu.be/ridE6PiN5H0
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owelly
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posted on 11/6/14 at 08:38 AM |
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I bought a few bits of flexible exhaust pipe and bent it to shape. Then ran the MIG along the tubes so it held the shape and copied it in stainless.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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mcerd1
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posted on 11/6/14 at 09:02 AM |
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I've seen things like the ones in the first link before - they are often used by manifold manufacturers in the states for 'mail
order' custom manifolds
(they lend you the kit, you build what you want in plastic and send it back to them, they send you the finished metal part and an invoice with a big
number on it)
they are a nice toy, but a lot of money and as above you can make something that functions just as well from cheap plumbing fittings or just go strait
to steel
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matt_gsxr
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posted on 11/6/14 at 09:13 AM |
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Thought provoking.
It did make me think. "In a world where CAD doesn't exist, that would be really useful".
Alternatively, if it is just for custom examples, then.
Why not make the kit out of stainless, then you just weld that together.
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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rincewind23
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posted on 11/6/14 at 06:17 PM |
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I like the set of videos from stainless headers, the idea of mocking it up with plumbing pipe seems the cheapest way to do it.
This is the first time I've tried anything like this, so I expect to make plenty of mistakes, so the push fitting and cheapness of plumbing pipe
definitely appeals!
All I need to do now is read a bunch of websites and books to figure out the best length, diameter, 4-2-1 or 4-1 setup, etc. etc.
I guess if I thought this was going to be easy I wouldn't have bothered. Thanks to everyone for their comments and suggestions.
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matt5964
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posted on 13/6/14 at 05:48 PM |
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https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10423819_645439978879935_5383456274210560696_n.jpg
that's a custom made headder
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coyoteboy
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posted on 13/6/14 at 06:29 PM |
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Can't help thinking a computer is going to be much easier to model it on, then chop up and spec bends for.
Even first-time engineering students don't really bugger it up enough to leave "piles of scrap metal" as their catalogue suggests
they were?
[Edited on 13/6/14 by coyoteboy]
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SCAR
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posted on 13/6/14 at 08:27 PM |
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We decided the best way was to get someone else to do it
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J222jra
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posted on 18/6/14 at 09:27 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by SCAR
We decided the best way was to get someone else to do it
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Who made that manifold? Looks awesome quality.
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loggyboy
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posted on 18/6/14 at 09:44 AM |
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I just bought a cheap kit (unused 2nd hand, but similar to the cheap ones on ebay). Then after playing around on sketchup and cad to get some ideas -
i just cracked on.
Not as neat as a fancy tig'd pro one, but once its painted and wrapped should work quite well, and only cost me £40 in parts.
Mistral Motorsport
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SCAR
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posted on 18/6/14 at 04:18 PM |
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Nigel at NRP Exhausts in Bilsthorpe Notts made a fantastic job of ours complete from fixing plates to re packable silencer, well pleased
NRP EXHAUSTS
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Trollyjack
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posted on 19/6/14 at 07:28 AM |
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I used Tony Law Exhausts in Leeds
Top bloke he make custom headers and Exhausts to suit any thing.
TrollyJack
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