motojohn
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posted on 29/8/18 at 04:42 PM |
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can i run a zetec on carbs for the IVA
i have just fitted the 1.8 zetec black top with a MX8 box in to my Robin hood super spec , the car has not been IVA yet the motor is a 1998 and im
told i have to run it on injectors due to the age ? is this true
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luke2152
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posted on 29/8/18 at 05:05 PM |
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You dont have to but i doubt a carbed engine will pass post 95 emissions levels. Not without rejetting them for save the planet performance levels.
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motojohn
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posted on 29/8/18 at 05:15 PM |
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do you have to prove the age of the engine ,as i do not have a log book but do have a receipt for the engine , or could i tell them is a 1995 engine
with a fake receipt
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motojohn
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posted on 29/8/18 at 05:17 PM |
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or what about a carb with a cat fitted ?
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luke2152
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posted on 29/8/18 at 05:25 PM |
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Anything is possible. The IVA guys do know their engines though as they do this every day so be careful.
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snapper
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posted on 29/8/18 at 05:36 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by motojohn
do you have to prove the age of the engine ,as i do not have a log book but do have a receipt for the engine , or could i tell them is a 1995 engine
with a fake receipt
A Ford engine has 2 letters in front of the numbers in the stamped on engine code
To prove engine she the Ford engine code list in the Burton’s catalogue is understood by IVA inspectors
Therefore if you try to bullshit them they will discover you
Your choice but it is best to do it properly, do it once
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motojohn
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posted on 29/8/18 at 05:39 PM |
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i only ask as i have found that the injector unit that came with the engine will not fit as it hits the steering rack
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russbost
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posted on 29/8/18 at 06:06 PM |
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Take a look at this thread, it can be done, but not simple (still probably a lot cheaper & easier than the alternatives!)
Linky
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motojohn
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posted on 29/8/18 at 06:24 PM |
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had a look but im now thinking of going down the after market injectors like these
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russbost
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posted on 29/8/18 at 06:39 PM |
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I hope you have deep pockets! .................
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motojohn
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posted on 29/8/18 at 06:46 PM |
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no i dont . but saw these for £360 for a pair of twins not including injectors and tps ,it does sound to good to be true but that does not include a
manifold
but i have plans for that
[Edited on 30/8/18 by motojohn]
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luke2152
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posted on 29/8/18 at 06:50 PM |
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Bike throttle bodies will do the same for £100 . Youll still need to make manifold
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motojohn
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posted on 29/8/18 at 07:17 PM |
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which bike bodys would be the best.? i do a have a Aprillia millie motor with all the loom and injectors i could have a look and see how they will
fit but i would also need a second set
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luke2152
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posted on 29/8/18 at 07:25 PM |
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I've used the early 2000s gsxr 600-1000 ones. They split apart easily if you wish to re space them. But i reckon there would be loads of equally
good ones from less popular bikes you could get for less.
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motojohn
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posted on 29/8/18 at 07:30 PM |
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thanks i have just found this so i bought it £35
[Edited on 29/8/18 by motojohn]
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big_wasa
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posted on 29/8/18 at 07:34 PM |
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lots have people have used the Oem injection, you just need a plenum. Gbs do one, you can make one. It takes some beating for cheap and cheerfull and
Iva friendly.
You could put a dog leg in the steering down link.
https://youtu.be/BKqeCjdBM0w
[Edited on 29/8/18 by big_wasa]
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motojohn
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posted on 29/8/18 at 08:44 PM |
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i have looked at aftermarket plenums but they cost as much as a set of throttle bodies
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MikeRJ
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posted on 29/8/18 at 09:42 PM |
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Getting a manifold and throttle bodies is just the start of your problems. Now you have to hook them up to an ECU and make them work well enough to
pass the emissions test.
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motojohn
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posted on 30/8/18 at 09:14 AM |
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I wanted to use the OEM injector set up but did not realise i had a space issue, i may try altering the plastic plenum , i was going to scrap it
anyway so nothing lost and it will get me though the IVA test hopefully
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big_wasa
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posted on 30/8/18 at 10:37 AM |
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An after market ecu and mapping makes the bolt on solution of the gbs plenum small potatos. After iva the plenum alone would hold 2/3 of its value and
maybe more with the oem ecu as a bolt on iva solution.
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motojohn
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posted on 30/8/18 at 12:05 PM |
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yes i have many options , i will go for bike throttle bodies after the iva , so now im looking at "adjusting " the OEM plenem to fit , if
i cant i will go for the GBS one ,and as you say it will sell on after .
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tims31
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posted on 30/8/18 at 05:47 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by motojohn
I wanted to use the OEM injector set up but did not realise i had a space issue, i may try altering the plastic plenum , i was going to scrap it
anyway so nothing lost and it will get me though the IVA test hopefully
I used the GBS Plenum and the standard Mondeo ECU and loom using Big_wasa's guide and all works fine and passes IVA easily enough without having
to get a rolling road map.
Have a look here
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motojohn
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posted on 30/8/18 at 06:02 PM |
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thanks for that food for thought , i think i will go that way as it sounds the best
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johnemms
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posted on 30/8/18 at 07:04 PM |
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My bike carbs when set one click down on the needles tickover at 14.1 afr cruise at 16 afr..
But .. they go much better at mid setting
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motojohn
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posted on 31/8/18 at 07:03 AM |
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food for thought
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