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Author: Subject: Spacer for use with V6 Type 9 box
RogerM

posted on 20/3/05 at 12:17 PM Reply With Quote
Spacer for use with V6 Type 9 box

Does anybody know of anybody that does an off the shelf spacer to fit between the bellhousing and the gearbox to make up the difference in spline position on the long input shaft boxes??

I have looked and failed to find one but have spoken to a local foundry that will cast something up for me at around £30 - £35 then I could machine it back to be flat.

I fI have to go that route would anybody else be like one.

Cheers guys

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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 20/3/05 at 01:30 PM Reply With Quote
http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/engineadapters.html
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RogerM

posted on 20/3/05 at 02:16 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers for that.

There are no UK manufactures on that list though

There is one in South Africa though which might be useful as my girlfriends family are still out there .... worth asking if one of them can bring one over when they visit.

If anybody knows of a UK manufacture that could help I'd be greatful for the contact details.

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mookaloid

posted on 20/3/05 at 03:10 PM Reply With Quote
I can hardly bring myself to say it but I got mine from C****ham Cars - very nice it is too complete with longer bolts!

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Mark

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RogerM

posted on 21/3/05 at 08:16 PM Reply With Quote
Dare I ask how much?????
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mookaloid

posted on 21/3/05 at 11:31 PM Reply With Quote
I can't remember exactly - about £40 IIRC. but it is a really nice thing. you couldn't make one for twice the money.

Just give their parts dept a call to check the price.

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Mark

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RogerM

posted on 24/3/05 at 06:29 PM Reply With Quote
You got a good deal mate.

I spoke to Caterham today and by the time I had a gasket and postage had been added then the goverment had their bit the bill was the best part of £70!!!!

Anybody else got any ideas????

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billy

posted on 24/3/05 at 08:46 PM Reply With Quote
i was gonna go down this route, but you wont find a straight-cut gear kit for the v6 box great ratio box tho





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chriscook

posted on 24/3/05 at 11:41 PM Reply With Quote
You could try and find a local laser cutting place. It might be best if you can provide an electronic drawing to make it easy for them.
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mookaloid

posted on 25/3/05 at 12:32 AM Reply With Quote
Well even at nearly £70 I still think although it is a lot of dosh, you will struggle to get one made for less - it has to be spot on accurate or the input shaft won't line up properly

It would take a good man a good couple of hours to make one plus the cost of a lump of ali, you still need to buy the bolts etc.

bite the bullet

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RogerM

posted on 25/3/05 at 12:21 PM Reply With Quote
I might have to bite the bullet. I do know a good laser cutting place but what I don't know are the exact dimensions, particularly thickness .... which has to be just about spot on.

As for a straight cut gear set why on earth would you want one??????

On the road they are noisy as hell. I HAVE to run straight cut in my Turbo'd Mini as it is the only way to make the box live more than to the end of the drive but I won't need to with the 4AGE.

BGH transmissions can make the Type 9 good for 240 / 250 BHP so long as you don't really want to go ralley or any other form of on/off loading application. Anybody telling you they have more than 200 BHP on a road going nat asp 4AGE is telling you bigg old porkies. I have discussed at length with all the 4AGE specialists what the potential is and those that know what they are doing will tell you 200 out of 20V tops for a road car. The 16V is all done at about 185, even then it needs to be on throttle bodies.

I might use forced induction at a later date but even then I will want to retain the drivability so that means sensible compression and thus sensible boost so, with a reasonably educated estimate I'd say 240 - 250 BHP.

My main reason for wanting to use the 4AGE is the revs, make it awesome ona track but still sensible for the road so I wouldn't want to do anything with it that compromises that level of duality.

£70 at CateringVan .... still hurts to think about it!!!!

[Edited on 25/3/05 by RogerM]

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SixedUp

posted on 25/3/05 at 08:19 PM Reply With Quote
Late to the conversation, but if its of any help, I know of several people who have done this conversion without a spacer, by having the input shaft machined down.

Frankly I suspect that just biting the bullet and paying C****ham makes more sense, even at £70.

Cheers
Richard

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RogerM

posted on 26/3/05 at 10:21 AM Reply With Quote
I think I am going to have to splash the cash on this one as otherwise it will just hold up the mock up of the car and I need to get the chassis to powder coat by mid April if I am to stand any chance of having it at Stoneleigh.

It's the position I want rather than anything else so changing the spline position would work for me.

Damn it ..... hate paying Caterham anything.

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RogerM

posted on 3/4/05 at 10:27 AM Reply With Quote
Well it has arrived, and it is a very nice thing. There is more machining in there than I had appreciated.

There you go, looks like the only option really.

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owelly

posted on 4/4/05 at 02:56 PM Reply With Quote
Could you not just chop 30mm off the end of the input shaft?





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