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phoenix70

posted on 30/7/05 at 11:29 PM Reply With Quote
Pinto Idle Problem

Hi All,

I've got a little problem with my engine. All seems fine until the engine warms up, then it starts hunting. When I start it, the revs sit about 2K and all is fine, but after it has been running for a while, the revs drop, and then jump upto 2K again, it just keeps doing this, dropping then jumping back up . I haven't really looked for a cause yet, but any ideas gratefully accepted. I haven't fully fitting the exhaust manifold, so back pressure could be the problem I'm not sure if it could have anything to do with this.

The engine is a 2L Pinto using Efi.

TIA

Scott

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bob

posted on 30/7/05 at 11:48 PM Reply With Quote
could be the idle valve control unit which is bolted on the side of the plenum chamber,whip it off and WD40 it.






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gazza285

posted on 30/7/05 at 11:48 PM Reply With Quote
If it uses a lambda sensor then it'll never settle down until you fit the exhaust properly.
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phoenix70

posted on 30/7/05 at 11:51 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gazza285
If it uses a lambda sensor then it'll never settle down until you fit the exhaust properly.


no Lambda Sensor

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Brook_lands

posted on 31/7/05 at 08:13 AM Reply With Quote
A couple of things to consider.

How old is the petrol in the tank – this unleaded stuff seems to “go off” a lot quicker than the leaded stuff did. I was having idle and running problems until I added 2 galls of new fuel to the ½ gall or so that had been in the tank for a few months and suddenly it was like a new car.

Second on, had a similar effect with a Rover Efi engine. Nearly stalled and then up to 1700 rpm back down to nearly stalling etc. Turned out to be one of the sensors (throttle position in my case) and the rest of the electronics (particularly the anti stall) were trying to compensate for the original fault. That’s the problem with electronic controls the symptoms you are experiencing may not be completely indicative of the actual fault.

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rusty nuts

posted on 31/7/05 at 09:31 AM Reply With Quote
As Bob suggests idle speed control valve may be sticking , clean with carb cleaneruntil all black gung is off then retry. Also test for air leaks, using WD40 spray around manifold to cylinder head gasket , if revs rise you have a leak . Look for vacuum pipes not connected as well . Probably better to finish fitting exhaust first though
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andy d (rizla)

posted on 31/7/05 at 10:31 AM Reply With Quote
this is a easy fault to clear

take the induction tube off at the throttle end on the inlet manifold,then with a wrag and a bit of brake fluid clean the inlet to the manifold including the throttle vane(hold the throttle open to do this)

the problem is the throttle vane not seating properly and the air not going through the bypass valve to the idle control valve

this is a common problem and was a service task that was done when i worked for fords

and it works

[Edited on 31/7/05 by andy d (rizla)]

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phoenix70

posted on 31/7/05 at 06:37 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for all the suggestion, I will give them a go, and hopefully it will solve my issue.

Cheers Guys

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phoenix70

posted on 4/8/05 at 02:19 AM Reply With Quote
Finished Fitting my exhaust, and had a chance to try all the above comments, but still no joy. I have investigated a little further, by trying some tests. First Thing I tried was disconnecting the Idle valve control unit wiring, this sounded promising, but after a few seconds it started to hunt again.

Next Thing I tried was to remove the throttle position sensor, now this had the desired affect, albeit at 2000 rpm. Not sure if this mean there could be a problem with the TPS, or not?

The only other thing I will try, is swapping my Airflow meter, with a spare one I have.

Any further suggestion I can try.

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CairB

posted on 7/8/05 at 07:33 AM Reply With Quote
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