RazMan
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| posted on 23/12/05 at 05:03 PM |
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Rad hose joining?
I know I've seen these somewhere but the brain has gone into 'tilt' mode so perhaps someone can help me.
I need half a dozen alloy hose joining pieces for my 32mm radiator hoses. Ideally I also need one with a 15mm take off for the heater. CBS do a bolt
in jobbie but I don't really fancy drilling holes in a hose, and I'd rather get something which is made for the job.
Any pointers? 
Cheers,
Raz
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smart51
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| posted on 23/12/05 at 05:35 PM |
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CBS will make aluminium tubes to your specification, including T pieces of different diameters. They will even roll the edges for you so that they
grip your hoses better. Their prices arn't too bad either. I bet they'll make just what you want.
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mak
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| posted on 23/12/05 at 05:35 PM |
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My motor factor "motorserve" does them , but thats in MK, i'm sure most motor factors will have them, took me a while to spot them,
best thing to do is phone and ask.
And i'm pretty sure those two sizes are supplied.
Good luck
PS: "Bolt in jobbie" sounds a bit suspect
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 23/12/05 at 05:39 PM |
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Rally Design's new catalogue list's them, came free with Jan PPC. magazine.
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RazMan
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| posted on 23/12/05 at 08:56 PM |
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Actually since my first post I trawled around a bit and found some in various places but they all seem very expensive.
CBS will indeed make them up for me for about £8 a piece, Europa and Merlin are a bit more (but they are stainless). I can't find any mention of
them on Rally Design but I bet they are the most expensive.
Maybe its just me being Scrooge-like (well, it is the season isn't it) but I just feel that bits of short alloy tube should be cheaper 
*edit* I take it all back! Rally Desighn do them for £4.58 
Sorted
[Edited on 23-12-05 by RazMan]
Cheers,
Raz
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 23/12/05 at 10:17 PM |
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32mm hose joiners from Rally Design £4.58 each +VAT , Sorry I was wrong about tee piece
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iank
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| posted on 23/12/05 at 10:26 PM |
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Merlin Motorsport sell these:
http://www.merlinmotorsport.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=hose+joiner
Not cheap unfortunately.
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Chippy
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| posted on 23/12/05 at 10:55 PM |
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Just buy a length of 32mm alloy pipe from your local metal dealer, and cut your own, much, much cheaper, keeps more beer tokens in your pocket.
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RazMan
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| posted on 23/12/05 at 11:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Chippy
Just buy a length of 32mm alloy pipe from your local metal dealer, and cut your own, much, much cheaper, keeps more beer tokens in your pocket.
Ah but they will more than likely leak. The proper jobbies have ribs that seal better. 
Cheers,
Raz
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Mix
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| posted on 24/12/05 at 08:53 AM |
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Have you had a look at what can be made from plumbing copper capillary fittings ?
Mick
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RazMan
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| posted on 24/12/05 at 09:12 AM |
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Unfortunately the plumbing suppliers only keep their standard sizes - 15mm & 25mm I think. These will do nicely for the heater though.
Cheers,
Raz
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Fred W B
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| posted on 24/12/05 at 09:18 AM |
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A tip that I saw on here - If using plain ally tube put 3 or 4 pop rivets through the ally tube where the bead would be. Should work just as well?
Cheers
Fred WB
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Mix
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| posted on 24/12/05 at 09:27 AM |
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Standard sizes I have at the moment are 15mm, 22mm and 28mm ID or 17mm 25mm and 30.5mm OD#
Mick
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RazMan
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| posted on 24/12/05 at 09:30 AM |
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That's a top tip Fred - I might have to try that on my two main pipes already installed. I got the length slightly wrong and had to trim the
beaded ends off and I was worried about leaks.
Cheers,
Raz
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RazMan
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| posted on 24/12/05 at 09:37 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mix
Standard sizes I have at the moment are 15mm, 22mm and 28mm ID or 17mm 25mm and 30.5mm OD#
Mick
Close, but no cigar I'm afraid Mick - I've ordered 6 x 32mm from Rally Design
The only thing I need now is a 32mm to 15mm tee piece.
[Edited on 24-12-05 by RazMan]
Cheers,
Raz
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britishtrident
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| posted on 24/12/05 at 10:53 AM |
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Plain aluminium alloy or steel pipe is fine even ABS plastic works. No fancy ends needed just use decent quality hose clips.
--- dosen't leak at the joints
--- won't blow off
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RazMan
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| posted on 24/12/05 at 11:05 AM |
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I tend to go on the side of caution now days. I was having a hell of a time with my turbo hoses popping off the intercooler at 12psi until I got the
hose mountings beaded. After that - no problems even at 20psi.
I know that water systems don't run at those sort of pressures but I just like to use belt & braces I guess
Cheers,
Raz
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NS Dev
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| posted on 24/12/05 at 11:06 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RazMan
Actually since my first post I trawled around a bit and found some in various places but they all seem very expensive.
CBS will indeed make them up for me for about £8 a piece, Europa and Merlin are a bit more (but they are stainless). I can't find any mention of
them on Rally Design but I bet they are the most expensive.
Maybe its just me being Scrooge-like (well, it is the season isn't it) but I just feel that bits of short alloy tube should be cheaper
*edit* I take it all back! Rally Desighn do them for £4.58
Sorted
[Edited on 23-12-05 by RazMan]
I would just buy 3 metres of 1.25" stainless steel hygienic tube, £20 ish for the whole piece.
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Danozeman
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| posted on 24/12/05 at 11:53 AM |
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As trident says. No beads needed. Just make sure both surfaces are clean and dry before u fit the hoses.
As for the t piece could u not get a standard one and get a 15 pipe welded on?
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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RazMan
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| posted on 24/12/05 at 12:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DanozemanAs for the t piece could u not get a standard one and get a 15 pipe welded on?
I probably could but I am pretty sure I've seen them for sale on one of the usual suppliers' websites. No sense in re-inventing the wheel
is there
I'm off to my local automotive store who stocks Gates hoses. I might find something ready made.
Cheers,
Raz
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cornishrob
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| posted on 26/12/05 at 10:42 AM |
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i was going to say that, why not buy a length of pipe? half the plumbing in one of my fiestas ended up as copper pipe.
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RazMan
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| posted on 26/12/05 at 11:24 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cornishrob
i was going to say that, why not buy a length of pipe? half the plumbing in one of my fiestas ended up as copper pipe.
As I said earlier in the thread, plain pipe ends often leak or pop off under pressure so I want to have beaded ends to ensure that they are
reliable.
I looked thtough the Gates catalogue at my local store - hundreds of hoses in all sorts of configurations. I've ordered a couple of useful
looking ones to see if I can make them fit.
Cheers,
Raz
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geoff shep
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| posted on 26/12/05 at 12:09 PM |
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CBS do them but as you say, not cheap.
I got a reducing 'T' piece from an auto jumble stall at a show which I put into the bottom hose. It has longish narrow tube coming off
the T which is stoppered with an alloy bung - which I can use to empty the cooling system where I want and not have the coolant spray all over the
place.
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Chris_G
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| posted on 26/12/05 at 01:07 PM |
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Here's a top tip I picked up a while ago and used on my cooling system. Takes a little bit of time and patience but works a treat and is in the
'Locost' vain......
CLICK HERE
Chris
Now finished! Xflow-Zetec swap with GSXR TB's and Megasquirt.
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RazMan
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| posted on 26/12/05 at 07:53 PM |
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Excellent tip - thanks
Cheers,
Raz
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