donut
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posted on 5/1/06 at 01:19 PM |
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Broken Carb
Please help.....
I thought i would fit my inlet manni today so i put it on and started tightening up the nuts. After a little while the vacuum thingy broke because it
was too tight up against the rocker cover.
The engine was rebuilt from Mac1 and i guess they just shove in any old carb they have lying arround . It is obviously the wrong carb or inlet
mannifold. (you would have thought all ford parts like that would be interchangeable!!)
Has anyone got on of these vacuum thingies or do i need something else?
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[Edited on 5/1/06 by donut]
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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Peteff
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posted on 5/1/06 at 02:55 PM |
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I did a spot of panel beating on my rocker cover (beat it with the ball end of a hammer) to make mine fit, but I had to as I had turned the carb
round on the manifold so it was like yours. I removed the auto choke and swapped the linkage to the other side. Did you turn the carb round?
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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MkIndy7
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posted on 5/1/06 at 02:56 PM |
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I think it needs rotating 90 deg to the right from what I remember
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bob
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posted on 5/1/06 at 03:10 PM |
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That carb doesnt look right andy,it looks like a 1600 one from a very early 1600 pinto.
What are the markings on the base of the carb ?
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Peteff
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posted on 5/1/06 at 03:23 PM |
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It looks just like my '87 2.0 ltr one. I'll have a look in the shed and see if there are any bits lying about.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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donut
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posted on 5/1/06 at 03:33 PM |
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Bob
The carb has a tab which reads 87HF then 1059 or 1069
The manifold has 84MF 9425PA
Guys
Cheers for info. I think i'll either turn it or smack the rocker cover with me hammer. Apparently the early pinto rocker covers are larger than
later ones and theres plentu of room inside.
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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donut
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posted on 5/1/06 at 03:38 PM |
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quote:
Throw that fecking thing away and get a set of bike carbs for fuel and get a megasquirt with an edis 4 unit/coilpack, and watch the boat anchor fly
I am picking up some R1 bike carbs on Sunday. I have a plan to either beef up the pinto or fit a 4age using the R1 carbs next winter. I just want to
get the car running ok for the summer and do a real nice install next winter.
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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Peteff
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posted on 5/1/06 at 03:45 PM |
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It's missing off the one I found. I took the choke and choke flap out of mine as I don't use them. I can't see what it does anyway,
it looks like it damps the throttle action a bit on the second choke. I did away with the stepper motor as well because I changed to the earlier
simpler ignition.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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MikeRJ
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posted on 5/1/06 at 04:07 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by bob
That carb doesnt look right andy,it looks like a 1600 one from a very early 1600 pinto.
What are the markings on the base of the carb ?
The early 1600 carbs were single choke IIRC.
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bob
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posted on 5/1/06 at 04:14 PM |
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I've seen some with round butterflys on,might well be an add on.
anyway this guy might be handy for spares
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/escort-mk1-mk2-carb_W0QQitemZ4602362082QQcategoryZ21654QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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mookaloid
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posted on 5/1/06 at 04:25 PM |
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If you are going to use a piper cam as in your previous thread, that carb will strangle it. Why not try a 38 DGAS carb? it should fit your existing
manifold and should be ok up to about 150 BHP.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BRAND-NEW-38-DGAS-CARBUREETTOR-WITH-RAM-AIR-FILTER_W0QQitemZ4601385035QQcategoryZ27377QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
or
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WEBER-38-DGAS-CARB-RELIANT-SCIMITAR-CAPRI-GRANADA_W0QQitemZ4602013626QQcategoryZ108794QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
/>
You can fit a manual choke conversion easily enough.
Cheers
Mark
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donut
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posted on 5/1/06 at 04:32 PM |
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I'm only going to use the cams with the R1 carbs next winter....unless i upgrade to 4age
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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mookaloid
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posted on 5/1/06 at 04:40 PM |
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I think I would have the 38 DGAS anyway
Cheers
Mark
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donut
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posted on 5/1/06 at 05:03 PM |
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I'll see how i get on with this one 1st. If it's pants then i'll look at altenatives.
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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Dusty
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posted on 5/1/06 at 05:30 PM |
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It's 180 degrees out. Electric choke goes toward the front of the engine. Vacuum device should be outboard and opens the secondary choke, its
not mechanicaly linked to the throttle lever.
Looks like a webber DFTH.
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donut
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posted on 5/1/06 at 05:45 PM |
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oooh interesting! that would explain it then!
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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DAN57
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posted on 5/1/06 at 10:19 PM |
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I have got that carb on my 2 litre pinto. Not sure if it is the right one for the engine though coz donor car came with a few carbs. Mine fits the
same way round too. I have a spare one of these carbs and an inlet manifold yours for FREE if you want them or any bits off of them. You're not
too far away either. I think the broken bit opens the second throttle valve dependant on venturi vacuum. ie sucks it open on full throttle. Could be
wrong though. It has been known once or twice.
[Edited on 5/1/06 by DAN57]
[Edited on 5/1/06 by DAN57]
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NS Dev
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posted on 6/1/06 at 10:38 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by mookaloid
I think I would have the 38 DGAS anyway
Cheers
Mark
perfect advice, the carb you have now is a pile of shite vac secondary one, always play up and are just utter crap.
bin it and fit either a 38 dgas or a 32-36 dgav
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