Danozeman
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| posted on 16/8/06 at 06:43 AM |
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Timer for starter button.
To any leccy boffins out there.
Can i use this as a timer on my starter button
so its not live all the time?? Im thinking say set it to be live for 60 secs then off.
I have some mates that will touch it while im driving u see, and im sure my daughter will when shes older too.
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
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ReMan
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| posted on 16/8/06 at 07:06 AM |
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You probably could...
But i would advise against it.
What happens IF you stall the car on a level crossing? :0
Or, slightly less dangerous, but more likely, in the middle of a busy junction?
Perhaps one with a doomsday cover might be more appropriate, so it can be got at quickly if needed.
Though if I thought one of my mates was going to hit the starter button at 70 MPH he would'nt have gotten in the car in the first place
Regards
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Guinness
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| posted on 16/8/06 at 07:24 AM |
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would it not be easier to wire the button so that it won't work when the engine is running?
perhaps using a relay powered from the alternator? when cranking the engine the alt won't put out much juice, but once running the charge light
should go out and flip the relay?
just an idea.
mike
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donut
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| posted on 16/8/06 at 07:32 AM |
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You could wire in a seperate switch that would 'arm' the start system. Deckman did it on mine and it worked a treat. Just flick the switch
to start then flick it off and the start button stops working.
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 16/8/06 at 07:38 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Guinness
would it not be easier to wire the button so that it won't work when the engine is running?
perhaps using a relay powered from the alternator? when cranking the engine the alt won't put out much juice, but once running the charge light
should go out and flip the relay?
just an idea.
mike
Thats exactly what i have been thinking of doing......
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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leto
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| posted on 16/8/06 at 07:53 AM |
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I type to slow, as usual 
The kit is intended to make things blink but it can be used like you want to but that will take some special weiring not covered in the manual. As
ReMan say, reseting the circuit is an issue. Also the spec on the homepage say the relay is 3 A, that might be low.
A simple solution is moving the starter button to the other side of the wheel.
It might be possible to wire up a double, switching relay so that the starter only can engage when the generator lamp is lit but run as long a the
button is pressed.
“I'm gonna ride around in style
I'm gonna drive everybody wild
'Cause I'll have the only one there is a round”. (J. Cash)
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ReMan
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| posted on 16/8/06 at 07:57 AM |
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Call me simple and many do, but I can't understand why you want a switch to turn on a switch?
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02GF74
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| posted on 16/8/06 at 08:13 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Danozeman
To any leccy boffins out there.
Can i use this as a timer on my starter button
so its not live all the time?? Im thinking say set it to be live for 60 secs then off.
I have some mates that will touch it while im driving u see, and im sure my daughter will when shes older too.
a hard slap or punch in the face would mean that each person should only do it once - how many mates and daughters have you got? 
pressing the starter when the engine running once in a while isn't going to hurt it - how often do you think it will happen? (when it does,
just punch harder  )
I'd say leave it as it is for safety reasons stated.
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Aboardman
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| posted on 16/8/06 at 10:04 AM |
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put the starter button on your side of the steering wheel so they cannot reach it.
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James
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| posted on 16/8/06 at 10:22 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Danozeman
I have some mates that will touch it while im driving u see, and im sure my daughter will when shes older too.
Maybe them walking home from wherever you've just stopped and kicked them out will give the right encouragement...
Cheers,
James
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- Muhammad Ali
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Danozeman
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| posted on 16/8/06 at 10:24 AM |
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Im just toying with the idea at the min.. A swift punch to the mouth would work.
I wont do this until after the sva anyway so just looking at my options.
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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zetec
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| posted on 16/8/06 at 04:04 PM |
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I just wired mine so it switches a relay, the power to switch the relay comes from the ignition light. Engine starts, ignition light goes out, relay
wont work so button dead, easy.
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 16/8/06 at 04:48 PM |
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Can't remember if we tried the Alternator light and it went out while cranking and the same with the oil light.
On ours you turn the key to the engine start position, then when its released the timer starts and the starter button is live.
We used an interior light delay relay so the button is live for 10 seconds after that it goes dead (is ususally long enough folr cold mornings or when
its been sat a while).
And best of all FREE from the donor  and saves all those chrunchy "whats this Do!" moments
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JoelP
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| posted on 19/8/06 at 02:08 PM |
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on a car engine, you can just earth the starter relay via the oil pressure switch. Hence it cant operate when the engine is running. I cant remember
if my bike engine has a specific oil switch or not, but i think it does.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 19/8/06 at 09:18 PM |
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Depending on health of engine it could build enough pressure on starter to operated pressure switch, which could stop the starter motor before
it's started!
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tks
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| posted on 23/8/06 at 12:10 PM |
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mhh
on my bike engine i'm sure oil pressure goes out while starting..
regards,
Tks
The above comments are always meant to be from the above persons perspective.
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JamJah
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| posted on 23/8/06 at 01:52 PM |
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I some production cars require you to have the key at the traditional starter postion (pos 4?).
If this is the case when you take pressure off the key and it returns to its normal positon (pos 3) surely the button is in active.
If I have lost you I am basically saying that the switch is wired in parrell to the original key ignigion so both need be active to turn the car
over.
This can be operated by any two handed person but still an added security/looks good toy.
if i am right about this surely is just cutting and extending the appropiate wire?  if i am not i am sure the hoards will publically stone me.
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daKlone
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| posted on 23/8/06 at 03:10 PM |
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How about a system like this?
To start car using button:
1) Key must be in and ignition on
2) Oil pressure must be zero (low enough for warning light, anyway)
3) Starter button must be pressed
4) Once there is oil pressure, the starter button no longer works after it has been released - but doesn't cut out as soon as the oil pressure
rises.
This would be relatively simple to arrange using a couple of relays. If this method sounds interesting I'll draw it up for you if you like.
[Edited on 23/8/06 by daKlone]
dK
Winter is coming...
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