Rich_T
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| posted on 12/11/06 at 09:37 PM |
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Zetec into Morris Minor??
Ok, so slightly off topic but I keep looking at my Zetec & Type 9 box sitting on the garage floor and wondered if anyone had any experience of
fitting one into a Minor. I would go and measure up but my Minors down in Derbyshire and the engines up here in Scotland. Any info appreciated because
its really bugging me that I cant get the 2 together yet to measure up!!!!
Rich
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smart51
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| posted on 12/11/06 at 09:43 PM |
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I work with someone who is fitting a rover v8 into a minor. I don't know if he had to mod the shell at all. I could ask if it would help.
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donut
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| posted on 12/11/06 at 09:45 PM |
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Anything is possible and the Lancia twin cam was a common upgrade a few years ago and Rover V8's were popular also!. A Zetec would be
interesting!!!!
 
indy
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
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Rich_T
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| posted on 12/11/06 at 09:58 PM |
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I did consider the Fiat conversion a few years ago but never got round to it. The Zetec would make an interesting mod. I dont mind trimming the
bulkhead back a touch and modding the crossmember but thats as far as it goes. The cars only ever had 2 plates weld to it since 1958 and Im reluctant
to chop it about to much. From memory the bigest issue may be steering rack location but without having it here I cant check. I think a trip down to
Derbyshire may be in order to bring it back.
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minordelay
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| posted on 12/11/06 at 09:59 PM |
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To get the Fiat motor in the trick was to cut a slot in the bellhousing for the steering rack, zetec should be similar. I've also gone the V8
route, but I built my own chassis.
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stevebubs
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| posted on 12/11/06 at 09:59 PM |
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Sure one of the classic mags a while ago had a feature on a Ford-powered Moggie...
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tegwin
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| posted on 12/11/06 at 10:29 PM |
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There is a company out there who make a kit to convert the moggie with a zetec engine...cant remeber the name of the company but it was something we
looked into before we sold the moggy to make room for the kit car 
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Rich_T
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| posted on 12/11/06 at 10:50 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
There is a company out there who make a kit to convert the moggie with a zetec engine...cant remeber the name of the company but it was something we
looked into before we sold the moggy to make room for the kit car
That certainly suggests it will go in then without to many mods. Have you any other info on which company it was, Ive done a search on the web but not
found anything.
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Peteff
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| posted on 13/11/06 at 12:11 AM |
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Did you know ?
Alec Issigonis originally designed the Minor to take a flat 4 engine, so something like a Sud.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 13/11/06 at 01:11 AM |
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John Beardmore is the man you need to speak to, he posts on here as JB and has a very nice Fiat Twin Cam engined moggie, and a good website:
http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/
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Kissy
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| posted on 13/11/06 at 07:27 AM |
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Conversion is straightforward enough - IIRC the Fiat/Lancia conversion required the bulkhead needed relieving to clear the top of the bellhousing
(w/Mirafiori g/box)
Yep Issigonis intended a flat four; he also intended it to be FWD - but it was considered to be too outrageous by the powers that be at the time.
If you're going down the Minor route make sure you get shot of the lever arm dampers and torsion bar front springs; neither are easily
upgradeable (or very effective)
+ don't call 'em moggies, that name belongs to Morgans.
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ayoungman
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| posted on 13/11/06 at 10:12 AM |
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A mate of mine has put a Zetec into an MG Midget.
"just like that !"
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 13/11/06 at 10:14 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Kissy
+ don't call 'em moggies, that name belongs to Morgans.
I've known them as "morry mogs" or "moggies" all my life, never heard of the Morgan connection?
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nige
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| posted on 13/11/06 at 10:34 AM |
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moggy
in my youth i had a rag top with a 3ltr v6
and "s" type jag rear
when you start this journey
you think it will be done in " no " time but then " no " turns into a " bloody " long time
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Rich_T
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| posted on 13/11/06 at 11:27 AM |
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20yrs or so ago (showing my age) I put a 3 ltr V6 in it. Then i decided to put it back to standard and ended up replacing the bulkhead and getting the
shell back to how it left the factory. Hence the reason for not wanting to chop it about to much again.
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JB
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| posted on 13/11/06 at 05:49 PM |
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Engines In Minors
The big problem when putting different engines in the Minor is the length of the engine bay, its short. The bulkhead crossmember was even cut back by
the factory to get the A Series in, when it replaced the flat head.
The reason the Fiat engine was so popular was that it actually fitted and you could still get a radiator in.
The big problem is the steering rack that runs across the top of the bellhousing / clutch. The Fiat gearbox was cut to clear the rack, even the A
Series box has a cut out.
Moving the rack is a serious business and to be honest fitting new suspension would be the better bet. You can fit any engine if you are prepared to
cut the bulkhead, fit new suspension and do some chassis work. If you want to keep the suspension and steering rack you are limited.
Weight is also the big problem, when the old B series was fitted the rear wheels used to lift when braking and understeer was a problem.
So you really do need to measure up the engine bay or compare the length of the engine to a Fiat or k Series. My first thought is the engine is too
long.
Unfortunately I do not know the length of either or the length of the engine bay.
John
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britishtrident
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| posted on 13/11/06 at 08:32 PM |
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Crush it bloody awful cars to drive, built of crap, even the Marina was more reliable.
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Rich_T
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| posted on 13/11/06 at 09:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Crush it bloody awful cars to drive, built of crap, even the Marina was more reliable.
You're a bad man!!!
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ayoungman
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| posted on 4/1/07 at 08:12 PM |
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District nurses all over the country will be turning in their graves at the thought
[Edited on 4/1/07 by ayoungman]
"just like that !"
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