cadebytiger
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 11:00 AM |
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skid lid
I am thinking about getting a new helmet for the car. Would be nice if it were good enough to do track days just for the future.
Don't really want to spend more than 100 pounds. Is this possible?
Thanks
Rupert
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smart51
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 11:11 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by CaLviNx
How much do you value your head @ ?
please please buy the best you can your head/life is a priceless commodity.
This kind of comment really annoys me. Whilst it is true of a bike, you don't really fall over in a car. Bikers wear helmets incase they fall
off. You need protection from your head hitting the floor.
In a car, you need protection from flying debris. A decent rather than expensive helmet will be OK surely.
Even if I do roll my car. The rollover hoop and supports will stop my head from hitting the ground and my £50 helmet should protect me from debris
and grass whiplash.
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westcost1
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 11:14 AM |
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Maybe get a fire proof one looking at your avator! 
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 11:16 AM |
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Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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cadebytiger
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 11:16 AM |
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they way i look at it is. before i took the windscreen off i never put a lid on. now all i am looking for is something to keep the wasps out.
I guess a track day is a different story so maybe i will have to wait until i get a super job to do those.
Does anyone have any suggestions on where to get them from?
Are there any full head (i.e. car ones) for under 100 squid? or should i go for another bike one?
Where is best to get them from?
Thanks
Rupert
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 11:21 AM |
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I would suggest you get one with the approved motorsport label on it as a minimum. These can still be bought for reasonable money, how about a second
hand helmet? My concern with an unapproved one would be the visor itself shattering dangerously if hit by a stone.
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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cadebytiger
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 11:23 AM |
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where can i find these helmets?!
Cannot find any under about 400 squid on the net!
Rupert
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andyps
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 11:23 AM |
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I got an AGV for £75 which has all the approvals for use in track days and for competition. It was very slightly second hand - worn once by someone
who decided he didn't like hillclimbing. Just keep an eye out for one. Alternatively, to keep the wasps out the helmets Aldi etc. have
occassionally would work fine.
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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cadebytiger
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 11:39 AM |
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have found an OMP integrale plus for 85 squid
Any ideas where i might be able to try this on for size?
In the notts area is possibe
Thanks everyone
Rupert
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nitram38
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 11:45 AM |
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I use a Caberg V2.
It looks like any other full face helmet, but it has an internal flip down tinted visor.
Saves fumbling for sunglasses when turning into the sun light and only around £85.
It also makes you look like a fighter pilot  and stops you from having to make eye contact with idiots when you stop at junctions!
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Agriv8
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 11:47 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by smart51
quote:
Originally posted by CaLviNx
How much do you value your head @ ?
please please buy the best you can your head/life is a priceless commodity.
This kind of comment really annoys me. Whilst it is true of a bike, you don't really fall over in a car. Bikers wear helmets incase they fall
off. You need protection from your head hitting the floor.
In a car, you need protection from flying debris. A decent rather than expensive helmet will be OK surely.
Even if I do roll my car. The rollover hoop and supports will stop my head from hitting the ground and my £50 helmet should protect me from debris
and grass whiplash.
agreed I dont intend to fall of my MNR on a bike completly diferent requirement as Id also want some spie protection.
I use a £40 Nitro one for the kit car more comfy that my Harri.
didnt some one post a scan from a bike magazine recently ? on a helmet test feature.
regards
Agriv8
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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02GF74
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 11:49 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by CaLviNx
Hi
How much do you value your head @ ?
please please buy the best you can your head/life is a priceless commodity.
I would go with that but is it the right decision?
Going back to last century, when steel helmets were first issued to the army, all of a sudden the number of head injuries increased which was the
oppostie to what was expected.
Ofcourse the reason for this was that soldiers that would have been killed otherwise survived thus increasing the head injury statistic.
So a better lid may save you from death but if you do survive but with severe brain damage, then is perhaps death not preferable?
Who can really say which is the best option?
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nick205
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 12:04 PM |
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See here
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=60015
Does the job fine for me - keeps your head warm and stops poo hitting you in the face. Not dear either so I am lookingat getting a second one for
anyone foolish enough to ride in the car with me
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miegru
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 01:02 PM |
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I agree to getting the best for what you can spend. Having said that; don't go for a bike one.
If you go for one that is designed for open car racing chances are that there will be significantly less lift and buffeting. Ideally you also buy one
of these spoilers on the underside, they really work.
Based on an earlier tread I bought some WileyX glasses. Haven't worn a helmet since! Fantastic!
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cadebytiger
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 02:16 PM |
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i have the very same glasses but don't fancy them at speed. a wasp or drop of water even at speed would bloody smart
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procomp
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 02:49 PM |
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Hi a few links to places that do MSA approved helmets.
GPR
DEMON TWEEKS
RALLY NUTS
ALEX READE
EARS MOTORSPORT
HTH cheers matt
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iank
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 03:09 PM |
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One warning that made me think a couple of threads on this ago was get a very lightweight one.
No point worrying about how well they protect your head while on a bike as bike helmets aren't designed for people who are securely strapped in.
If it's heavy it can increase the severity of whiplash injury in a car wreck.
So either go for a properly designed expensive car motorsport helmet, or a really light (cheap?) bike helmet to keep the flys out of your nose.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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cadebytiger
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 03:16 PM |
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anyone know the visor standards?
This is the most important thing!
is there a number i should look for?
Rupert
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G.Man
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 03:17 PM |
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In my experience, car helmets are heavier and more expensive than bike helmets...
For road and occasional track day use, just get one that has the best visor..
You are really just trying to protect against stone/bug hits anyway, so a helmet with a good visor is more important than the overall strength..
If you manage to turn a se7en over, you are looking at more worries than bashing your head, breaking your neck for one!
Most Arai's and Shoei's will meet MSA regs and there are plenty around £100 with very good visor systems..
Opinions are like backsides..
Everyone has one, nobody wants to hear it and only other peoples stink!
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mookaloid
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 05:03 PM |
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I got one of these Not from demon tweeks but my local
motorsport outlet.
It complies with the appropriate BS so if you ever wanted to enter a sprint or hill climb you could do with it.
Also apart from what Mark said above (which are all good points) the quality of the lining etc will be better and it will be more comfortable and last
longer tahn the cheapo ones.
Cheers
Mark
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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benji106
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 05:15 PM |
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go to a shop and try one on before you buy, getting the right size makes a lot of difference to the level of protection offered, plus if you get one
too small it will give you a headache quite quickly. you can get decent lids for £100 generally the more expensive ones will have features like
washable liners and better ventilation and visors. wouldnt reccomend you buy one second hand, if its been bashed about it will offer far less
protection.
-Everything in excess-
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G.Man
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 05:22 PM |
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For me, I will use a manufacturer that specialises in Helmets..
not one that makes steering wheels, suits, seats, boots etc etc..
And from my experience of Sparco race suits, the last thing I want to do is entrust my head to one of their helmets...
BUT... I speak from personal experience and preference, and I know a lot about the Arai and Shoei testing and development... For all I know they could
make them for Sparco
One other piece of "preference" Motorcycle helmets have much larger apertures than car helmets...
If you want the best visibility and peripheral vision, a bike lid is the way to go...
Mine was discounted down to £350 from £450, I value my head, but then I have 4 helmets altogther.. darn biker fashion
Opinions are like backsides..
Everyone has one, nobody wants to hear it and only other peoples stink!
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jack trolley
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 posted on 16/3/07 at 05:48 PM |
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An objective helmet test which contradicts trite slogans.
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oliwb
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 06:34 PM |
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I bought an extremely expensive secondhand Shoei helmet. Only cost me £12. I knew it was in good nick had a £250 paint job etc so went for it. I
did buy a new visor though a genuine replacement one which cost £40 because it was a naff one on it. I would and wouldn't agree with Mark on
it. You are taking slightly less risk in a car as your not so likely to hit the road. However he makes a good point about other things. I was
prompted to buy a helmet by someone I know who was hit in the face by a bit of wood whilst driving a seven on the motorway. Luckily he had a helmet
on but it made a mess all the same! Oli.
If your not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room!
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 06:59 PM |
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When thinking about the effectiveness or otherwise of helmets in one of our cars (including going under the back of a lorry trailer) just consider
that a windscreen will give zero protection in extreme collisions. In fact, most tin-tops will fare badly in those situations!
My choice was to get a helmet to protect my face and eyes from flying objects, up to and including half-bricks thrown up by lorries (as happened to my
brother when driving an MGB - flew up, bounced off the bonnet, and went straight through the windshield, just missing his head). At least with a
helmet on, it would take much of the force out of the impact.
Other people can make their own choices, based on their own risk assessment...
David
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