matt_claydon
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 03:04 PM |
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Help with Pinto
Hi,
I bought a Pinto engine (v. cheap), but it's missing some ignition system components and there's a few things on it that I can't
identify:
What is this electrical connection near the exhaust port:
This three pin connector comes from the distributor, one wire is connected to the body, the other two go to a sensor (ringed). WHat should this
connect to? Anyone got one?
What is this electrical connection?
On the carb there are two fittings I can't identify, one is electrical and the other is threaded:
The engine has this adaptor plate attached and what look's like a bigger flywheel than normal. The gearbox it came with (which I won't be
using) also has a much larger bellhousing than the one I took out of my CVH sierra. Is this engine from a transit or something?
Have looked in the haynes manual, but nothing seems quite the same (maybe because it's not out of a sierra, although I was told it was. Many
thanks for any help, if anyone has any of the bits I need for sale, please let me know.
Cheers,
Matt.
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locoboy
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 03:17 PM |
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Hi there,
Top pic is the water temp sender and the 3rd pic is the oil pressure switch ( i think!) I have a T piece out of here with my low pressure light and my
capillary guage attached.
Dont know the distributor connectors an the Carb on e on the left ion mine is attached to the sump breather ( again i thnk, not too sure on that)
someone else please clarify.
Cheers
COlin
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locoboy
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 03:19 PM |
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maybe not for the sump breather pipe, it is for the water cooled inlet manifold.
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bob
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 03:56 PM |
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Its a different carb to mine,but pipes from inlet manifold are usually servo and water.
Sump breather pipe is usually underneath manifold,well it is on my weber anyhow.
Dizzy connects up to an ignition module which in turn conects up to coil with live taken from starter.
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 06:25 PM |
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thats a transit engine,usually low compression,vv carb is only fit for the bin,adapter plate and flywheel will have to go
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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JoelP
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 06:29 PM |
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The plug on the distributor connects to the wiring loom, obviously(!), it is the wires to the ign modukle that induce the coil to discharge, possibly
called hall induction? somebody correct me if not...
did all the others get identified?
The two plugs on the block are oil pressure and water temp i think, my loom is beside me so gizza shout if you still stuck.
One of the plugs on the carb may be a choke warmer or similar, usually a blue wire from the altenator.
[Edited on 13/8/03 by JoelP]
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 06:33 PM |
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tother one on manifold if for the servo
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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bob
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 06:34 PM |
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OK so the wires in the plug on the dizzy go tto the module,i tried in my best english
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 06:43 PM |
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Thanks for all the help guys.
Was going to fit twin carbs anyway, so not too worried about the carb. Looks like I need an ignition module, hopefully find one at a scrappy.
Guess if it's low compression then it will be pretty poo performance-wise. Maybe I should cut my losses and try to find another lump, what do
you guys think?
Cheers,
Matt.
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JoelP
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 06:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bob
OK so the wires in the plug on the dizzy go tto the module,i tried in my best english
Sorry bob, i wasnt copying you! I didnt see you'd answered that bit! Yours was clearer than mine anyway!
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bob
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 07:16 PM |
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no problem joel i think matt has the answers now .
MATT
When you go the the breakers for the ign module make sure you get a plug for it as well with a few inches of wires on it.
I've got a pic of one in situ somewhere,if i can find it i'll mail it to you.
Ir if i get a camera here i'll take a shot of mine.
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Peteff
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 08:01 PM |
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Does it connect to one of these? I got this and a dizzy off a 'C' reg 2.0ltr Sierra and replaced the dizzy and big aluminium box on mine
with it. Gets rid of a lot of stuff you don't need if it's the one and it's easier to wire.
yours, Pete.
[Edited on 13/8/03 by Peteff]
 
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yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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bob
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 08:49 PM |
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Thats the exact pic i was looking for pete.
Matt
Get one of them and the plug that goes with it mate.
When your ready i'm sure one of us here will tell you where the wires go
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Stu16v
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 10:16 PM |
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P.s. get another dizzy cap 'cause it looks like that is knackered too....
Dont just build it.....make it!
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JoelP
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 10:37 PM |
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Anyone addressed his low compression issues yet?!? May as well tell him its shite if it is! I dont have a clue myself. conrod?
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david walker
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| posted on 14/8/03 at 08:17 PM |
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Will also have a 1600 cam in it.
Dave Walker, Race Engine Services - 07957 454659 or 01636 671277
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 14/8/03 at 09:15 PM |
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Is there a definitive way I can tell what this engine was /originally/ from? Could I tell from the camshaft or something else, or do I need to phone
ford up with the engine number? ANyone got the phone number I need?
Thanks for all the help,
Matt.
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bob
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| posted on 14/8/03 at 09:22 PM |
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Ford Technical Info centre
0906 5533447
Give them eng number and they will tell you when it was made and what it was 1st in.
If you want it in writing for emisions at SVA you have to write to them.
Technical Information centre
Ford Motor Company
PO box300
Walsall
WS5 4QH
bob
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 15/8/03 at 06:21 AM |
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tranny engines normally have a harder life than car engines so best look for a seirra,plenty still around,you also get all the bits you need instead
of searching scrappies and paying over the odds
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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dave blissett
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| posted on 15/8/03 at 07:54 PM |
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low compresion
the transit engine has low compresion pistons ie the height from the pin to the top of the piston is shorter than on a high compression car engine
piston heights high comp (9.2) 41.65mm
low comp (8.2) 40.35mm
hope this helps
all the best dave
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