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9000rpm

posted on 10/7/07 at 12:23 PM Reply With Quote
Front wishbone design.

My first attempt to design the front wishbone.

The uprights are sierra and copied from locost7.info. The front chassis section is close to a +4. Wishbone lengths are my own. Right height is 5". Compression travel is 2.5" and rebound is 2.5”. Measurements are in mm

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Normal height


Full compression


Full rebound

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worX

posted on 10/7/07 at 12:44 PM Reply With Quote
I would say so, CofG looks good there IMO, but what engine are you planning on using? as 127mm ride height at the front is pretty high...

Steve
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posted on 10/7/07 at 12:51 PM Reply With Quote
I am planning to use a F20C which has a longish oil pan. I was originally designing for a 4inch drop but having roads worse then the moon, i opted to design with 5 inch.
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t.j.

posted on 10/7/07 at 01:25 PM Reply With Quote
I pointed my lower wishbone a little bit down-wards about 19mm.

My RC is at 75 which is a little bit high.
But it is one big compromise.

My ride height is 125mm front.

I think you could raise the upper inner a little bit, which is better for your RC.

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britishtrident

posted on 10/7/07 at 02:21 PM Reply With Quote
To be realistic work with 3.5" total suspension travel -- a transit drag link has limited articulation.


Front Rc looks a bit low
What size tyres are you planning ? if you used a smaller outer dia tyre & wheel combination it might help get the wishbones at better angles

As a rule steeply angled wishbones should be avoided

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9000rpm

posted on 10/7/07 at 04:50 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by britishtrident
To be realistic work with 3.5" total suspension travel -- a transit drag link has limited articulation.


Front Rc looks a bit low
What size tyres are you planning ? if you used a smaller outer dia tyre & wheel combination it might help get the wishbones at better angles

As a rule steeply angled wishbones should be avoided


Should the RC be low to the ground ?

I will change to a 15" with lower profile with a smaller overall dia.

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t.j.

posted on 10/7/07 at 05:57 PM Reply With Quote
Roll centre around 45 mm is a good start,
I personally would not go lower than that

Plenty stuff on wheel-geometry around here.

Rear roll-centre if IRS around 90 mm
Mine are 75 front and rear 100 mm.

I use 195/65 R 14 to gain bottom space





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britishtrident

posted on 10/7/07 at 05:58 PM Reply With Quote
Front RC should be slightly lower than the rear, I would start by trying to get the Rc about half-way between the ground and the bottom of the chassis, say 52 -65 mm

The lower wishbone should be roughly parallel to the ground (for a road car usually inner end very slightly higher than outer)

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posted on 10/7/07 at 06:07 PM Reply With Quote
If you take a good look at the front suspension of 1960s Formula 1 or 2 racer (for example Lotus 33) you should get an idea of basic practice.





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posted on 10/7/07 at 10:52 PM Reply With Quote
I did search for the lotus 33 as mentioned and found a good reference of the wishbone angles. After some home work i determined the upper is around 15deg and lower is 5deg (approx).
http://www.vsrnonline.com/Mags/MC/Vol1/V1N6/MC_V1N6_p283.jpg

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