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The Doc

posted on 30/7/07 at 08:18 AM Reply With Quote
Oil capacity of chopped sump

1600 XFlow

With 20-20 hindsight I would have made my sump with baffles and extended its capacity rearwards, but I didn't!

Basically I 'cut and shut' about 25mm and of course shortened the pick-up pipe accordingly.

Is this reduced capacity an issue. I'm thinking of adding an oil cooler to help with this. Should I bother bother?

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whitestu

posted on 30/7/07 at 08:22 AM Reply With Quote
I did the same with my CVH and is seems OK so far. Haven't done many miles though.

Stu

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scoop

posted on 30/7/07 at 08:34 AM Reply With Quote
Does it make sense to measure the content of the bit you cut off then leave that amount out when you fill up?
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The Doc

posted on 30/7/07 at 08:44 AM Reply With Quote
Yes that's easy enough, just that I wondered whether this reduced capacity (which I would guess to be about half a litre/a pint) would cause any significant engine wear problems
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wicket

posted on 30/7/07 at 08:45 AM Reply With Quote
I did the same on a 1600x-flow sump, ('cut and shut' 25mm and shortened the pick-up pipe), which equated to 0.5lt approx. I keep the oil level up to max. on the dip stick and had no problems so far.
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Bluemoon

posted on 30/7/07 at 10:04 AM Reply With Quote
I guess if the volume of oil lost is the same or less than the volume from min and max on the dip stick and you keep it full you should be o.k.

Dan

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owelly

posted on 30/7/07 at 11:42 AM Reply With Quote
I cut 40mm out of my Alfa sump and I think I'm having hot oil problems! When hot the oil pressure drops to 20psi (usually about 50-55psi) and the hydraulic cam belt tensioner rattles like a moody box of metal frogs. I have and oil cooler and an accusump to plumb in to see if that makes any difference....
Ideally, I should measure the oil temp.
Cut...

and shut....


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BenB

posted on 30/7/07 at 02:09 PM Reply With Quote
If you reduce the oil volume too much it'll be less than the amount circulating within the engine resulting in the pick-up sucking in air resulting in now pressure and a dead engine.

Also the oil you are using will be circulating and being heated more often so your engine will run hotter and the oil will break down quicker....

Of course you can solve both problems but fitting an oil cooler which as well as increasing the circulating amount of oil will also mean it runs cooler....

Happy days

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rusty nuts

posted on 30/7/07 at 05:48 PM Reply With Quote
Fitting an oil cooler can help with oil pressure but make sure you fit a thermostat with it. I found that if I filled my cross flow to max and used the available engine speed I had a smoke screen behind, dropped level to halfway between max and min and don't have any problems
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