hillbillyracer
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| posted on 18/11/07 at 12:01 PM |
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What parts are needed to fit a Zetec?
I've done a few searches to find out what bits I should get to fit a Zetec which is the direction I think I'll go, I'm thinking I
need from a 1.8 CVH Sierra:
Flywheel
clutch assembly inc thrust bearing & fork
Starter motor
Sump
anything I've missed?
Assuming I can do a reasonable deal with my scrapman (been buying bits there for years) I'll take the whole engine & box as a unit. He has a
1.8 Sierra in, the carbs gone & the engine wont turn by the front pulley so it should be cheap.
My donor is an H reg twincam Sierra GLX which has the MT75 box which would be the best way to go about this? I'd like to avoid the Q reg if I
can but that wouldnt be a massive issue if it solved other problems.
Should I build it with the twincam & get it SVA'd then change the engine, or register the Sierra with the Zetec engine & then build it
from scratch with the Zetec ? How do the regs for emissions affect all this, if it's an H reg but the engine is post 95 which emissions regs
will it have to pass?
I'm thinking I'd be better building it using the type9 box rather than the MT75 in my donor as it's a bit more compact &
I'll not be going silly with the power.
Sorry for asking questions that will already have been answered but the search isnt all that easy to use!
Thanks for any help.
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r1_pete
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| posted on 18/11/07 at 12:40 PM |
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I'm using a 1.8 zetec with an MT75, I've had the zetec flywheel re-drilled to take the sierra twin cam clutch, the clutch works now
without any thrust bearing mods. You cannot use a CVH flywheel on a zetec, the flywheel aloso triggers the ignition on the Z.
2L twin cam intermediate plate (splash guard)
A 1.8 CVH starter from qx components, qs1221 - I think. Sump needs grinding for clearance.
MOT & Emissions, emissions are checked against whichever is oldest, car or engine, so if you had a 1960 car with a 2007 engine, your emissions are
checked as per a 1960, - no idea about SVA, but if you put the zetec in the sierra, register it, then use the sierra ID on the kit.... There are regs
as to how much of the original car you need to use to retain the ID.
Rgds.
Pete.
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stuart_g
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| posted on 18/11/07 at 12:47 PM |
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The easiest way IMO to go the zetec route is to get the T9 gearbox and starter motor from the 1.8CVH Sierra. source a 1.8l zetec from a pre '95
escort for easier emissions, don't worry what standard power it is as you can fit the 130bhp cams into it from a 2.0l mondeo and make it the
same spec. The 1.8 from the escort has the correct slimmer sump which you will not have to mod, the correct flywheel, the starer motor from the CVH
engine will fit straight on, the clutch is a 1.8 mondeo and the release bearing to go with the T9 is a CCT133 from a capri, that's it job
done.
If you run it on Megajolt and bike carbs you can expect 150BHP.
Take the diff, drive shafts and drums from your twin cam donor, also the front hubs and brake calipers. You will probably also need the hand brake
lever and steering column/switches and cut the wiring to the switches and leave a tail on the wiring. ditch the rest of the car.
It is easier to go 1.8 zetec as the 2.0l needs too many mods, such as the water pump rotates the wrong way, it is physically bigger so you may end up
with clearance problems and you may even have to change the sump to get a starter motor to fit. The 1.8 needs nothing done to it.
HTH
Stu.
Don't fit the twin cam then change later it will be too much work and the twin cam engine is poo anyway. The MT75 is as you say bulky, I'd
go T9 and Zetec from the start.
I have modded a chassis from pinto to Zetec and it is a lot of work so it is best to do it from the start without everything else in your way.
Use your original donor V5 just update it with the new engine number/details you will be fine.
[Edited on 18/11/07 by stuart_g]
[Edited on 18/11/07 by stuart_g]
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coozer
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| posted on 18/11/07 at 01:24 PM |
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As Stuart above, I've used a feb 95 1.8 zetec.
Straight forward bolt up to a type 9 gearbox, starter off a cvh Sierra, clutch plate and cover from the zetec with a Capri release bearing.
ZX9R carbs on a home made inlet with megajolt.
If you use a 2.0L zetec you will need the 1.8 sump, waterpump and flywheel.
Steve
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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big_wasa
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| posted on 18/11/07 at 01:38 PM |
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As you see from above there is no right or wrong way of doing the job just solutions that work 
The cvh sump is an easy fit to the zetec.
There are a couple of advantages over the zetec escort alloy sump although overall height as standard is about the same.
The oil pick up bowl is at the back which is where the oil wants to go under acceleration. Its steel so its easy to modify. The starter fits against
it with no problems. If you spank it its easier to repair and so on.
The 1.8 cvh flywheel is lighter than either of the zetec items, but has no crank pick up to run the ignition. Not the end of the world but requires a
trigger wheel set up. The bolt holes will also need drilling out by 1/2 mm.
I have used the Mt75 to handle the bhp but it has meant extra work.
IMHO 
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hillbillyracer
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| posted on 18/11/07 at 02:07 PM |
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Cheers for the replies, so for the moment I'm going to get the CVH bits I was planning on.
I have a 1.8 Zetec from a 97 Mondeo that I swapped for a mate, it runs fine but smokes a lot when cold which is why it got swapped, will it be ok to
use as a pattern for the build while I look for an early Escort to source a 1.8 Zetec from or will there be too many differences?
As for the sparks & fuel I'm thinking of going for Megasquirt & Megajolt, I quite fancy the idea of learning about & building my own
system. The Sierra I'm looking at getting my bits from has the trigger wheel on the front already so mabye some of that will be of use.
This will be a proper budget/scrapyard/ make it myself build, if I can get it in the scrappy, make it myself or get a mate to do it cheap or in return
for other work then it will not be on the car!
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grassracer
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| posted on 18/11/07 at 06:22 PM |
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In true hillbillyracer tradition, I'll keep an eye out for bits that might interest you. Good Luck!!
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hillbillyracer
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| posted on 18/11/07 at 08:22 PM |
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Ha ha, someone who's already seen how I go about building a car!
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