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markf

posted on 7/12/07 at 07:35 PM Reply With Quote
A series, K series

this has most likely mentioned before, but i will ask anyway, but how much different are the two, with regards to fitting the same gear box, any thoughts on this.

cheers

mark

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stevec

posted on 7/12/07 at 08:37 PM Reply With Quote
I am afraid they are completely different animals, there are no common parts that I can think of.
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Humbug

posted on 7/12/07 at 08:43 PM Reply With Quote
AFAIK they are completely different
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britishtrident

posted on 7/12/07 at 08:52 PM Reply With Quote
Not a single bolt common between the two
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Mole

posted on 7/12/07 at 10:31 PM Reply With Quote
A series = very old . At least as early as the make 1 mini. K series at lot newer (early 90's?) alloy? (head at least) . Know they had head gasket probs due to disimilar metals.

[Edited on 7/12/07 by Mole]

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Peteff

posted on 7/12/07 at 11:11 PM Reply With Quote
A series used gearbox as sump.





yours, Pete

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Mole

posted on 7/12/07 at 11:26 PM Reply With Quote
and the road as a sump
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Mole

posted on 7/12/07 at 11:34 PM Reply With Quote
I'll qualify.

My first "project" was a an 86 Autsin Metro. The clutch was fcuked, as was the brakes, (every component) , an engine mount snapped. And this may shock some but it only had rusted through the floor (so unlike a BL). I wish I had it now if only to prove it could be fixed.

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britishtrident

posted on 8/12/07 at 10:28 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by britishtrident
quote:
Originally posted by Mole
A series = very old . At least as early as the make 1 mini. K series at lot newer (early 90's?) alloy? (head at least) . Know they had head gasket probs due to disimilar metals.

[Edited on 7/12/07 by Mole]


Actually A series goes back to 1948 ---- in production right through to the end of the real Mini.

The 1275 A series engine is very prone to head gasket failure between #2 & #3 cylinders (especially in pre-Metro versions) much more so than the K series.

The K series is all alloy and no disimilar metals are involved in K16 series head gasket failures, usually the the silicone tracks that seal the oil ways on the gasket get displaced due to "head shuffle" caused by uneven warm up of the head and block. This was largely cured by a couple of modification MG-Rover made.






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Mole

posted on 8/12/07 at 10:46 AM Reply With Quote
I knew the A series was old I didn't realise it was that old. I'd actually subscribed to this post waiting for you to post again British Trident because I know your a bit of an authority on the K-Series. If its alloy it must be pretty light, no wonder Caterham favoured it.

[Edited on 8/12/07 by Mole]

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britishtrident

posted on 8/12/07 at 02:11 PM Reply With Quote
A series origins go back to a british war time project to build improved truck engines.

The british goverment bashed the heads of the main volume british truck manufactures together to build a 6 cylinder engine for a "high speed cargo truck".
It was generally acknowledge the the best truck engine around was the Bedford/Vauxhall engine which was a version of really the Chevrolet "stove bolt 6".
Austin, Morris and Rootes co-operated with Bedford and although the project was cancelled they gained a lot of inside knowledge of the GM engine.
The BMC A, B, C & D series were all influenced by the GM engine however BMC enployed a Harry Weslake designed cartoid combustion chamber in a effort to improve fuel economy.

The OHV Hillman Minx (later Hillman Hunter) engine was also heavily influence by the GM engine.

Bedford, Vauxhall and other GM companies continued to use stove bolt six developments for many years in applications such as the Vauxhall Ventora and the standard british army Bedford truck.

The team that design the GM engine went on to produce the Chevrolet small block, the Caddilac (& Rolls-Royce) V8 and the Rover-Buick V8 !

[Edited on 8/12/07 by britishtrident]





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