scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 6/11/03 at 12:05 PM |
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What is EFI?
I know this probably quite a basic question but I have seen EFI pintos mentioned all over the place and was wondering what EFI stands for? Electronic
fuel injection or something like that? Does it produce more power than the standard engine? Can you replace a standard engine with an EFI or do you
need to change parts like the gearbox?
Cheers
Pete
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 6/11/03 at 12:24 PM |
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You are right.... EFI is Electronic Fuel Injection.
i'm not that up on pintos, but i think the bottom ends are the same, so the gearbox will stay the same.
EFI should produce more power
[Edited on 6/11/03 by Ben_Copeland]
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 6/11/03 at 12:36 PM |
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Thanks for the help Ben.
Anyone got any ideas how much more power an EFI will produce? Will i need to cut a whole in the bonnet of my lovely Indy to fit one?
Pete
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CairB
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| posted on 6/11/03 at 12:53 PM |
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scoobyis2cool,
You don't have to cut a whole or even a hole in the bonnet to fit an EFI pinto in an Indy. Have a look in my photos (Cairb) and Mark Allansons
for ideas. This topic has been discussed at length in the past, try a search of the site for background.
I've heard that newer Indies raise the engine slightly higher than mine.
I think that the as standard the carbed 2.0 was around 100bhp whilst the injection version was 115, but most of the difference comes from a better
flowing head on the injection version.
Mine with a cut down EFIlump does 0-60 in 6 seconds 2 up with a Kent FR34 cam.
Cheers,
Colin
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greggors84
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| posted on 6/11/03 at 12:59 PM |
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Colin do you know what sort of power you have with the engine and cam?
Ever had it dynoed?
Chris
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CairB
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| posted on 6/11/03 at 01:10 PM |
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greggors84,
No, it's not been dynoed, but I think that it is probably >125 bhp from the weight (about 750 kg 2 up) and 0-60 times. I'm currently
looking at simple mods to the fuel injection controller to try to squeeze a bit more. When I've got something to tweak I may get it on a local
rolling road. I've been trying to go the locost route by monitoring it's performance on the road.
Cheers,
Colin
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 6/11/03 at 01:11 PM |
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Hmm, i'm seriously tempted now... i love the look of it under the bonnet too, looks very powerful! think i'll stick with the standard 2
litre and then swap it at a later date.
Pete
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Hellfire
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| posted on 6/11/03 at 01:53 PM |
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E.F.I.
...and here's me thinking it was "electromagnetic field imagery" as use in the X-files and the type... 
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 6/11/03 at 02:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scoobyis2cool
Hmm, i'm seriously tempted now... i love the look of it under the bonnet too, looks very powerful! think i'll stick with the standard 2
litre and then swap it at a later date.
Pete
IF you want to go for looks and a lot more power... go for a Vauxhall engine. IMO
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 6/11/03 at 02:45 PM |
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Yeah looks really nice, how much of the vauxhall drive train do you have to use for that? I'm guessing a minimum of the gearbox and possibly the
whole lot! How much did the engine set you back?
Pete
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timf
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| posted on 6/11/03 at 02:55 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben_CopelandIF you want to go for looks and a lot more power... go for a Vauxhall engine. IMO
looking nice and lots and lots and lots of power
 
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 6/11/03 at 02:56 PM |
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You can't use the vauxhall gearbox, cos it's FWD. Type 9 box, with special bellhousing.
I got my engine for £90, and i'm selling 2 2.0XE's for a mate (£250 each). They go for anything up to £500.
The standard injection system doesn't usually fit, so carbs/TB's need to do used.
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 6/11/03 at 02:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by timf
looking nice and lots and lots and lots of power
and lots of weight
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timf
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| posted on 6/11/03 at 03:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
and lots of weight
pinto weight 300 lbs
mine = 420lbs
not that much more considering pinto = 135bhp normal fast road tune
mine =420 bhp
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| posted on 6/11/03 at 07:53 PM |
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Vauxhall? Phfopfh! PSA XU9J4 as found in Citreon BX 16v & Pug 405 Mi16. 167 bhp as standard and all alloy. Niiiice!
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 6/11/03 at 07:54 PM |
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yep, if it's not that heavy. Appart from insurance costs for the younger driver. There must be cost reasons why more people dont fit your
engine. Plus i think my XE looks nicer
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| posted on 6/11/03 at 10:18 PM |
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Could be cost of parts Ben, can't be cost of engines as they are cheap to get hold of. No where near as common as the XE and not as many tuning
companies either. Dunno how much it weighs but it is all alloy so can't be too heavy. It is rather tall though, although that's what
bonnet bulges were invented for!
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