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mad4x4

posted on 1/6/08 at 04:38 PM Reply With Quote
Bike Carbs Fall Off

I'm having trouble with some zx750 bike carbs. The flange on the rear of the carbs is so short that I am struggling to get the silicaone hose and Hose Clip to Stay on. I get them on and tighten up the hose clip and it will pull the pip off the lip. what can I do. O when running on idle the suction is manageing to pull in the silicone hose and pull it off the flange.

I have just cut lengths of silicone hose and used that. Surly bike must have a better fitting. Where do you get those green hoses Bogg borthhers use?

Other problem I have is when running the carbs "bounce" about a good bit





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Danozeman

posted on 1/6/08 at 04:46 PM Reply With Quote
Mine bounce about. I have a bogg bros set and they have thing jubilee clips on.





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coozer

posted on 1/6/08 at 04:47 PM Reply With Quote
When I was constructing my manifold I saw some similar post so I used the original bike inlet rubbers mounted onto plates welded to the tubes. They have ribs on the inside the grip the grooves on the carbs. Just done a track day and had no problems in 90 miles. Rescued attachment Inlet2.JPG
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r1_pete

posted on 1/6/08 at 04:50 PM Reply With Quote
I've fab'd a pair of stabiliser brackets, to try and replicate the stabilising effect the airbox has when installed on the bike:

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r1_pete

posted on 1/6/08 at 04:51 PM Reply With Quote
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rusty nuts

posted on 1/6/08 at 04:54 PM Reply With Quote
Had to make some stabiliser brackets for my TBs , was able to drill and tap the manifold flange to bolt them on and used a couple of tapped holes in the TBs Been OK for a year now. Silicon hose isn't the best stuff to use for carbs or TBs
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jacko

posted on 1/6/08 at 04:57 PM Reply With Quote
Supper glue the rubber pipe to the carbs then j/clip, that is what i have done had NO problems and they have been onabout 2 years know
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mad4x4

posted on 1/6/08 at 05:16 PM Reply With Quote
What can I use istead of silicone hose (dia is about 46mm)

My carbs are GSXR750 what are suitable "inlet rubbers"





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r1_pete

posted on 1/6/08 at 05:31 PM Reply With Quote
I'm using the 45mm version of THIS






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matt_claydon

posted on 1/6/08 at 05:39 PM Reply With Quote
You could consider using stainless exhaust clamps instead of jubilee clips. You can do them a hell of a lot tighter. Like these:



I'd recommend using fuel hose as above. Silicone isn't fuel resistant generally and the rubber stuff probably has higher friction.

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mad4x4

posted on 3/6/08 at 05:59 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by matt_claydon
You could consider using stainless exhaust clamps instead of jubilee clips. You can do them a hell of a lot tighter. Like these:



I'd recommend using fuel hose as above. Silicone isn't fuel resistant generally and the rubber stuff probably has higher friction.


Flange on back of carbs is very narrow so think they migth push off - ordered Original rubbers of of the Bay.





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Jenko

posted on 3/6/08 at 08:14 AM Reply With Quote
OK, not carbs, but I made up some brackets for my Bike TB's to hold them on, It still allows a little bit of flex.....

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02GF74

posted on 4/6/08 at 10:44 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coozer
When I was constructing my manifold I saw some similar post so I used the original bike inlet rubbers mounted onto plates welded to the tubes. They have ribs on the inside the grip the grooves on the carbs. Just done a track day and had no problems in 90 miles.


Surely it is clear that this the problem when using smooth bore hose?

you need to somehow replicate this or use the original rubbers.

Probably cutting a grove in the hose and using an O-ring would solve this. How this is achieved is left to the reader to figure out.






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David Jenkins

posted on 4/6/08 at 11:12 AM Reply With Quote
This is one of the pipes from my inlet manifold, just before it was welded.



You can see the groove where the bike carb connecting rubber locates.

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myke pocock

posted on 13/6/08 at 09:01 PM Reply With Quote
I have Honda Fireblade carbs on my Skoda Estelle trials car. I had the inlet pipes made up locally and welded to my own made manifold plate. The pipes used had to be sleeved to fit the bike rubbers and didnt have any grooves in them. I made up mounting grackets rather like the plates in the photos, using the cross shaft that secures all the carbs together in one line and fitting on to a manifold stud at each end. 7,500 rpm and bouncing up and down a variety of rough tracks did nothing to dislodge them. RESULT!!!
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DarrenW

posted on 13/6/08 at 09:08 PM Reply With Quote
My manifold has groove cut in end of pipes.

I had same bother when using silicon - found it went mushy / slippy. Changed hose and no trouble since. Still have some hose left.






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