Stuart_B
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 08:28 AM |
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air filter
hi all, i do not know which air filter to go for, i looking at the pipercross scocks or the pipercross block with backing plate, is there any
advantages or disadvantages with either of them?
as well have people got some pictures of what they look like on a pinto engine car.
thanks
stuart
black mk indy, 1.6pinto on cbr600 bike carb's.
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Danozeman
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 08:40 AM |
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What carbs have u got mate? Im guessing either twin 40's or bike carbs.
Alot of people reckon seperate socks will zap some power as theyr quite restrictive. Iv got an itg suasage filter on mine which are sposed to let the
air flow more free into the carbs.
Not a pinto but you get the idea.
 
engine2
[Edited on 18/7/08 by Danozeman]
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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Stuart_B
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 08:59 AM |
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hi, i have got cbr600 fx bike carbs. i did not know that seperate socks will zap power.
stuart
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Jenko
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 09:22 AM |
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Not a pinto, but I'm using a Pipercross sausage filter with a bonnet cut....I too have heard that the individual filters are really not very
good wrt power..........
Going outside of the bonnet, means nice cold air, but generally more noise......
PIC
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splitrivet
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 09:36 AM |
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Just to throw my tupennorth worth in I used minimoto air filters.
A Locost solution, all 4 will set you back about £20 on Ebay depending on supplier, easy to fabricate a mounting, compact (no bonnet cutting) and look
the dogs cahonnes.
Cheers,
Bob
I used to be a Werewolf but I'm alright nowwoooooooooooooo
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Stuart_B
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 10:53 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by splitrivet
Just to throw my tupennorth worth in I used minimoto air filters.
A Locost solution, all 4 will set you back about £20 on Ebay depending on supplier, easy to fabricate a mounting, compact (no bonnet cutting) and look
the dogs cahonnes.
Cheers,
Bob
hi bob, have you got a picture, as well i am going to have to cut the bonnet as the carbs close to the side rail.
black mk indy, 1.6pinto on cbr600 bike carb's.
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whitestu
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 12:18 PM |
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I've read that bike carbs need some space between the trumpets and filter to allow them to work properly. Socks or mini moto filters may not
provide this.
Mine work well with a Pipercross Sausage filter.
Stu
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DarrenW
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 01:47 PM |
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here's mine. Its a K&N challenger. This is the huge 100m version. Smaller available but thinner ones are close for the trumpets inside ( i
think 75mm fits most no problem).
 
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big_wasa
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 03:01 PM |
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Gap should be ~ 30mm 
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splitrivet
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 03:03 PM |
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hi bob, have you got a picture, as well i am going to have to cut the bonnet as the carbs close to the side rail.
No pics sorry but if you have a look at the filters on Ebay it doesnt take a great deal of imagination to picture what they'll look like which
personally I think is real cool.
I cant honestly see how having 4 seperate filters is going to be less efficient than having 4 inlets sucking through 1 housing through 1 piece of
sponge.
Cheers,
Bob
I used to be a Werewolf but I'm alright nowwoooooooooooooo
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Stuart_B
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 03:55 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
Gap should be ~ 30mm
what gap?
as well how does the big chunk missing right at the front of the bonnet does it affect the stenght of the bonnet and how to fix it?
thanks
stuart
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jacko
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 08:24 PM |
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triple filters 4
This is how i did mine the locost way
Jacko
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Stuart_B
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 08:40 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jacko
triple filters 4
This is how i did mine the locost way
Jacko
did you build a box to over teh carbs and then put the filters on.
stuart
black mk indy, 1.6pinto on cbr600 bike carb's.
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jacko
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 02:02 PM |
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Yes thats what i did have a look in my photos
Jacko
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Jenko
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 05:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by splitrivet
hi bob, have you got a picture, as well i am going to have to cut the bonnet as the carbs close to the side rail.
No pics sorry but if you have a look at the filters on Ebay it doesnt take a great deal of imagination to picture what they'll look like which
personally I think is real cool.
I cant honestly see how having 4 seperate filters is going to be less efficient than having 4 inlets sucking through 1 housing through 1 piece of
sponge.
Cheers,
Bob
I can, you are totally surrounding the inlet with air restriction - The flow into the mouth of the trumpet is important, and having anything close by
will effect this.....not saying it's a bad thing to do, just that a few rolling roads have noticed a marked difference between the individual
and the all in one filters.
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Mark G
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| posted on 25/7/08 at 06:43 PM |
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a friend of mine has a single sock on his and when on full throttle the sock turns inside out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGmlXXbENQM
Worth a watch for a giggle!
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 18/8/08 at 08:10 PM |
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The part 2 video is SO funny! I like the crack about 'Where did you get that filter from? LIdl?'
Getting back to the thread - here's my effort. The foam is proper filter foam from Pipercross.
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Stuart_B
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| posted on 19/8/08 at 11:35 AM |
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that looks so nice work. i have went for single socks as i have no room for a airbox, i did try but it would not fit in so i had to go for single
socks.
stuart
black mk indy, 1.6pinto on cbr600 bike carb's.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 19/8/08 at 11:44 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by splitrivet
I cant honestly see how having 4 seperate filters is going to be less efficient than having 4 inlets sucking through 1 housing through 1 piece of
sponge.
Cheers,
Bob
Because the intake strokes of a 4 cylinder engine do not overlap (much), each cylinder has the entire filter to breath through. With a sock filter,
you have a small fraction of the filter area dedicated to each cylinder. The socks are convenient and easy to fit, but they are more restrictive than
the large single filters.
Looking around the service area of a tarmac rally I was servicing at this weekend, none of the cars I saw used sock filters...
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