paul_mcq
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| posted on 13/1/04 at 04:22 PM |
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bhp?
watsa the highest u can't get out of the 2lr pinto?
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Alan B
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| posted on 13/1/04 at 04:35 PM |
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These guys would know....I bet it's huge...and expensive....I think they are probably the best pinto tuners in the world...
http://www.esslingerracing.com/index.htm
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 13/1/04 at 04:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by paul_mcq
watsa the highest u can't get out of the 2lr pinto?
a billion horsepower
absolutely can't get that
atb
steve
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blueshift
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| posted on 13/1/04 at 04:49 PM |
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no wait, 10 billion horsepower is higher and you can't get that either.
AHA!
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macspeedy
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| posted on 13/1/04 at 05:43 PM |
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on a reasonable budget 160-180 using balanced parts and ported a head and twin 45's
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david walker
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| posted on 13/1/04 at 07:04 PM |
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Serious question - What's the definition of reasonable?
Dave Walker, Race Engine Services - 07957 454659 or 01636 671277
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dblissett
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| posted on 13/1/04 at 08:27 PM |
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bhp
i think you should limit it to about 160bhp
you can get higher but it may be more cost effective to look at zetecs above that
as the pinto needs alot of money spending on it to get above 160
also try david visards pinto tuning book
its very good
cheers dave
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Julian B
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| posted on 14/1/04 at 09:52 AM |
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Don’t forget about driveability
If the engine needs to be "on the cam" all the time it will drive like a dog in town, fantastic on the track but a dog in town. If you
want very hi bhp from a smallish engine and drivability, you will need to think about clever fuel injection and intercooled turbo charging. Ka ching
££££££
Cheers
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 14/1/04 at 02:25 PM |
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well the cosworth engine is technically kinda like a pinto ish... err
well its a pinto block with a cossie head (more or less)
my intentions are for a mildy sorted pinto to start with and then swap at a later date for a cosworth engine - the same block should mean an
'easy' swap 
to get an idea of tuning have a look at Giles Cooper's site - he has a fair bit of info on there
http://www.gilescooper.co.uk/
Cheers
Dave
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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garage19
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| posted on 14/1/04 at 03:03 PM |
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At the recent Suffolk Locost meet i spoke with another list member (he will remain un-named uness identifys himself*) who used to work for Holbay. He
said when Ford were putting out the tender for developing a turbo version of the pinto, Holbay took a stock transit pinto cos they have a lower comp
ratio, bolted a turbo on and ran 220bhp almost straight away!
Would be interested to know what sort of fueling they used.
* your only clue is he has a boat engine in his car!
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 14/1/04 at 03:59 PM |
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Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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James
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| posted on 14/1/04 at 04:44 PM |
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Garage19,
Interesting...
Perhaps your anonymous friend would be willing to give us a few more tidbits! 
Cheers,
James
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 14/1/04 at 04:55 PM |
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gives the word "prop" a whole new meaning,is it a volvo penta by any chance?
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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timf
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| posted on 15/1/04 at 09:02 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by garage19
At the recent Suffolk Locost meet i spoke with another list member (he will remain un-named uness identifys himself*) who used to work for Holbay. He
said when Ford were putting out the tender for developing a turbo version of the pinto, Holbay took a stock transit pinto cos they have a lower comp
ratio, bolted a turbo on and ran 220bhp almost straight away!
Would be interested to know what sort of fueling they used.
* your only clue is he has a boat engine in his car!
it's not a boat engine its a truck engine.
btw i worked for ford. holbay were asked what they had suitable.
ford did the turbo lc transit using the sierra injection manifolding and a custom ecu for the fueling the first dyno run produced 200 bhp at the end
of the testing the bhp was at around 450 bhp but to get this reliably a 205 block and a set of forged low comp pistons, steel rods and crank were
used also the heads were 'o'ringed to the block.
the biggest problem we has was ford wanted a 'big' name for the flagship sierra and cosworth got the contract.
Tim
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mackie
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| posted on 15/1/04 at 09:30 AM |
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They do use that engine in boats too, albeit adapted for marine use I'd imagine. Had a go in a Mastercraft waterski boat with a 5.7l mercury (I
think) V8 in it making around 290hp, went quite nice!
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garage19
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| posted on 15/1/04 at 11:29 AM |
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quote:
it's not a boat engine its a truck engine.
Tim
They used it in school buses and combine harvesters as well, didn't they?
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 15/1/04 at 11:33 AM |
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Well he is from Suffolk....
A Locost harvester ???
Dave
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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greggors84
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| posted on 15/1/04 at 12:36 PM |
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My uncle had a water ski boat, a ski nautique (a type of master craft) im pretty sure it had the old mustang engine in it the 4.7l V8 (289cu) or it
might have been a 5.7l V8. It couldnt run in the sea as the salt water would wreck the cooling system as it was pumped round then dumped out to save a
rad.
Their not cheap engine donors though, he sold a ten year old boat for around £8k. I was always hoping he would scrap it one day and i could have the
engine
[Edited on 15/1/04 by greggors84]
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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mackie
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| posted on 15/1/04 at 01:01 PM |
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This mastercraft was running in salt water, no idea what cooling system it had though. It did however have straight-through exhaust pipes that exit
underwater so if you reversed too fast it conked out!
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