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tube bender?
02GF74 - 24/10/08 at 10:22 AM

for putting bends in the frame tube, would something like this work? (tubing 1 1/4 or 1 1/2 DOM).




Am I right in thinking these will kink the tube?

The ones which have a roller that pull the tube into the former won't?

like this but on a bigger scale:


DarrenW - 24/10/08 at 10:28 AM

Most cheaper tube benders will deform the radius and kink thicker tube. Depends what you want to do. A mate of mine has made roll cages with the top unit - but nothing that has to be rated or pass scrutineering.

Iirc to bend with no kinks or distortion you have to use a mandrel bender which is probs more expensive for the kit. From a visual point of view i dont like the non mandrel forms.


Dangle_kt - 24/10/08 at 10:28 AM

Not sure about the bottom one, but the top one is a pipe bender not a tube bender. There is a big difference in price and quality.

Check the following vid on youtube as to how not to kink the tube

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GWT3N3m4bE4


m8kwr - 24/10/08 at 10:39 AM

It does depend on what you are willing to spend on one.

I was thinking about bending my own tubing, but the cost of purchasing a decent machine to do it, is beyond an amateur builders budget.

When i was looking i found this company (link below), which had a one that bent tubing, but it is manual, and still costs nearly £1000, but they do offer another one, which bends tube and square tubing, but that is well over £1000

Link

I do believe it is best to use non seemed tubes, i think you need to use CDS (Cold Drawn Steel), someone correct me if i am wrong please.

If you are just kinking it, then i would of thought it would of been ok, it is when you are looking to put 45 degree angles, that would be a cause for concern. But even so i would use CDS anyway, this is more costly then the seemed stuff. I think they use the same steel for scaffolding etc.

HTH


02GF74 - 24/10/08 at 10:45 AM

^^^^ can't acceess u-tube.

basically mandrel bender had a big disc with a groove machine in it and a second piece that runs radially to the disc to pull the tube into the groove?


daviep - 24/10/08 at 11:07 AM

quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
^^^^ can't acceess u-tube.

basically mandrel bender had a big disc with a groove machine in it and a second piece that runs radially to the disc to pull the tube into the groove?


Also crucially it also has a mandrel inside the pipe which supports the pipe where the bend is being made.

Davie


SeaBass - 24/10/08 at 11:19 AM

Mandrel can be seen below...





nick205 - 24/10/08 at 11:56 AM

Have a word with "minicooper" (David) on here. he has a manual floor mounted tube bender he imported from the states at fairly reasonable cost. I've seen the work he's done to produce a roll cage and various other bits - looks to work very well.


Alan B - 24/10/08 at 12:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
......basically mandrel bender had a big disc with a groove machine in it and a second piece that runs radially to the disc to pull the tube into the groove?


Nope, but that does describe the type of bender that works well until you go into very thin wall stuff...then you do need the mandrel.


trikerneil - 24/10/08 at 01:07 PM

I made my own tube bender.

LINKY

Does need a bit of machining though.

Neil


02GF74 - 24/10/08 at 01:12 PM

thx - I have seen similar. Unfortunately I done have any machine tools, other than drill press, to make something like that.

.... but I have got info. about making one from a fiesta brake drum!


liam.mccaffrey - 24/10/08 at 02:20 PM

linky

heres my protool bender thread


Rudy - 24/10/08 at 07:46 PM

why do you need a bender machine? You can bend tube with your hand , isn't it true?


Rudy - 24/10/08 at 08:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74

.... but I have got info. about making one from a fiesta brake drum!


Very interesting, can you explain please ?


nick205 - 24/10/08 at 10:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by liam.mccaffrey
linky

heres my protool bender thread



That's the one I was thinking of


trikerneil - 25/10/08 at 05:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Rudy
quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74

.... but I have got info. about making one from a fiesta brake drum!


Very interesting, can you explain please ?


Aha! Blackjack's Bike Tech, have a look HERE

HTH

Neil


Rudy - 25/10/08 at 06:11 AM

thankyou Neil,
I prefer yours , but I like the idea of the drum, it could be possible to do a mix , a idraulic drum.


trikerneil - 26/10/08 at 10:12 AM

The drum is only a way of making a former.

You could indeed make a mix of my bender and Blackjack's.

Neil


02GF74 - 26/10/08 at 10:02 PM

^^^ yep - that is the site - I wasn't able to finid it.