mcerd1
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posted on 8/9/11 at 08:30 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by scootzThe Evoque is loosely based on the Freelander2 (a good car in itself
which in turn is loosely based on a mondeo
but then tell me a new mass production car that isn't sharing its platform with something else.....
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MK9R
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posted on 8/9/11 at 08:34 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by mcerd1
quote: Originally posted by scootzThe Evoque is loosely based on the Freelander2 (a good car in itself
which in turn is loosely based on a mondeo
but then tell me a new mass production car that isn't sharing its platform with something else.....
Where do these stories come from???????? There maybe an odd panel (like a hinge reinforcement), but its now where near loosely based on it!!! The X
type, which was built in the same plant as the X type shared its underbody with the mondeo, and the Evoque has reused some of the equipment left
redundant from X type and also goes down a some of the same production lines a the freelander, but that seems a bit loose to say its the same
platform, LOL!!!
[Edited on 8/9/11 by MK9R]
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owelly
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posted on 8/9/11 at 08:44 AM |
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No matter what you/us guys think, the buying public will decide if Landrover have got it right. A bit like these tv talent shows. Perhaps you
don't like "insert whoever" but the public will decide and how can they be wrong? The fact that you never hear of then after a few
weeks doesn't matter because thats old news, much like the 6 year old car. The dealers have had their cut, the finance company have got theirs
and now the back street garages can have their go....
I bought an 05 Range Rover Vogue on the back of the panic when the government announced the 'gas-guzzler tax'. It had missed a few
services but was cheap. I ran it for two years and sold it for the same as I paid for it. I'll look forward to buying one of the new Range
Rovers for a tenth of its original sale value at three years old just because it has the wrong celebrity name on the boot lid. Suits me fine.
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mcerd1
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posted on 8/9/11 at 09:03 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by MK9R
Where do these stories come from???????? There maybe an odd panel (like a hinge reinforcement), but its now where near loosely based on it!!! The X
type, which was built in the same plant as the X type shared its underbody with the mondeo, and the Evoque has reused some of the equipment left
redundant from X type and also goes down a some of the same production lines a the freelander, but that seems a bit loose to say its the same
platform, LOL!!!
^^ the same platform design just means they use the same 'kit of parts' and basic chassis/floorpan design
(stretched and modified to suit) meaning they can easily be built on the same production lines and take less time to design each of the cars
(which is why there are so many variants and clones on the market) even if all the pannels and trim are different parts
I know this is only wikipeda, but as far as I know this list is right:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_EUCD_platform#Ford.27s_new_global_D-segment_platform
a few years back in the engineering papers lotus reconed they'd come up with one that could deal with everything from a 2 seat mid engined
sports car all the way up to a front engined MPV (don't think they ever used it though)
[Edited on 8/9/2011 by mcerd1]
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kevmcdo
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posted on 8/9/11 at 09:09 AM |
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I agree 110%
I said earlier in the post that I thought they were becoming more common and to me that is a very good thing as within 12 months they will be within
reach financially.
So roll on the fashion slaves keep buying new as I cannot afford one box fresh
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Andybarbet
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posted on 8/9/11 at 10:23 PM |
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We bought a 10 year old SAAB 95 from the guy that bought it brand new from the dealer, we paid £2000 for it & he paid just over £30,000 for it 10
years earlier, it had 68000 genuine fully serviced miles on the clock & every extra thay had on the dealer list. We have had it 18 months now
& still love it as much as the day we bought it. We paln on keeping it as long as possible.
I reckon we are one of the few couples i know that actually 'own' our car, we owe nothing on it, most of my mates drive very new cars, i
really couldnt afford but i suppose if i wanted to get one on credit i probably could.
I think it is generally accepted to borrow as much as you can now days, i was there a few years ago but realised i was never getting anywhere so have
been cutting back & working hard to get debt free.
We are living to our means now & have been for a couple of years, hence the reason my kit is taking so long, when i finish it i want to be driving
my 'toy' around knowing that i owe no money on it & if times get hard as they quite often do, i can put it away until i can afford to
run it again, if i owed money on it i would probably have to sell it if i couldnt afford the repayments.
Ive gone really off topic here but was just trying to say that most people dont seem to be too bothered about paying way over the odds for something
as long as the monthly payment seems affordable, also alot of people i know seem to get a new car every year, i dont even have a clue how much this
must cost ??
Bring on the trusty old SAAB t may not be the nicest looking motor but its safe, reliable & its ours, not the banks
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Toniq-r
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posted on 9/9/11 at 07:24 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by kevmcdo
I agree 110%
I said earlier in the post that I thought they were becoming more common and to me that is a very good thing as within 12 months they will be within
reach financially.
So roll on the fashion slaves keep buying new as I cannot afford one box fresh
Shi* I will have to sell the RR Sport now, dont want to be seen driving a common car
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Ninehigh
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posted on 9/9/11 at 04:32 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by owelly
but the public will decide and how can they be wrong?
The public are stupid. That's how they can be wrong.
When high regard is being paid to people who are famous for being in a group that now doesn't exist and kicked her out before they got big,
whose current claim to fame is being on telly a lot, and a person whose talents are a) the ability to take off clothes and b) the surgically enhanced
parts underneath, yeah I will stand up and say it's wrong.
The Mini was mentioned a few posts ago. Go in and ask why the new model (countryman?) is bigger than a 106. Point out that it shouldn't be
called "mini" being so big and see if they understand your point
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kevmcdo
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posted on 9/9/11 at 04:44 PM |
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You keep that RR Sport a bit longer, spec it up a bit with some tuning and shiny bits then give me a shout
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ss1turbo
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posted on 10/9/11 at 01:37 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by MK9R
quote: Originally posted by mcerd1
quote: Originally posted by scootzThe Evoque is loosely based on the Freelander2 (a good car in itself
which in turn is loosely based on a mondeo
but then tell me a new mass production car that isn't sharing its platform with something else.....
Where do these stories come from???????? There maybe an odd panel (like a hinge reinforcement), but its now where near loosely based on it!!! The X
type, which was built in the same plant as the X type shared its underbody with the mondeo, and the Evoque has reused some of the equipment left
redundant from X type and also goes down a some of the same production lines a the freelander, but that seems a bit loose to say its the same
platform, LOL!!!
[Edited on 8/9/11 by MK9R]
Looks like a virtually identical platform to me (and not much difference on the front end of the bodyside either). OK, some of the mild steel panels
are now Boron steel, but some panels are Freelander/Evoque depending on how many holes they have in them..
(Staring at the bodysides line whilst typing this - now they're running Saturday and Sunday to keep up with those aforementioned advance
orders...)
Long live RWD...
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