Ninehigh
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| posted on 25/10/12 at 08:10 PM |
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Moisture in a fridge?
I'm starting to build another pc, and I was wanting water cooling. I am also planning to put the resevoir in a mini fridge on the basis that it
would provide more cooling if the water was at 4 degrees.
Then it hit me today, why not put the whole pc in the fridge and have the entire environment at 4 degrees? This would mean I'm not messing about
so much.
So is the inside of a fridge a damp environment enough to bother a pc?
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austin man
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| posted on 25/10/12 at 08:15 PM |
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I would think the fridge may become overwaorked due to the heat generated from the PC the heat and cold would potentially increase moisture levels.
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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JoelP
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| posted on 25/10/12 at 08:16 PM |
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the damp in a fridge is moisture in the air condensing on the cold parts. So long as the door isnt opened excessively, then the computer shouldnt get
wet, especially since it would be warmer than the rest of the fridge.
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 25/10/12 at 08:20 PM |
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That's a good point, would it be able to handle it?
The door would only be opened if I had to get inside it, as I'd wire up the dvd drive to be outside (I do know that discs get damp on them when
cold)
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Slimy38
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| posted on 25/10/12 at 08:24 PM |
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I would be amazed if a fridge could get rid of that much heat. And it would be hard work to get it airtight with the wires in and out.
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david_hornet27
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| posted on 25/10/12 at 08:26 PM |
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It is an interesting idea!
Does this help??
http://www.ehow.com/how_5793999_cool-computer-mini-refrigerator.html
Edited to say I would be far to scared to try this!
[Edited on 25/10/12 by david_hornet27]
'If everything seems under control you're just not going fast enough' - Mario Andretti
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 25/10/12 at 08:33 PM |
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That article reads like itwas written by someone who thinks it should work but has never actally tried it with their own computer.
Just go for a tried and tested fluid cooling system if that's what you are after.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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david_hornet27
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| posted on 25/10/12 at 08:39 PM |
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Agreed.
Fridges are designed to keep cold things cool, not to cool things down that produce heat...
'If everything seems under control you're just not going fast enough' - Mario Andretti
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Staple balls
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| posted on 25/10/12 at 08:56 PM |
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All this seems like a way to massively increase your electricity bill with little to no performance gain.
The old school option would be a peltier to cool your cpu with a wc loop to remove the heat, or you can try all kinds of silly things. I used to duct
outside air through my radiator to keep it extra cool.
Anyway, I'd check out somewhere like OCAU or Hardocp for other interesting and viable cooling options.
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tegwin
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| posted on 25/10/12 at 08:57 PM |
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Fridge is a bit overkill..
Get a proper watercool system, they are pretty cheap these days.....
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contaminated
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| posted on 25/10/12 at 09:51 PM |
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I'm sort of ashamed to admit that I actually did this once. It was way back when I was at university and into over clocking. There was an
article about it on some forum I frequented (via a dial up connection!).
I was running a massively over clocked Pentium (or even Celeron, I forget now) 133 with a Voodoo 2 PCI graphics card which shows you how long ago it
was. I didn't run it for long and I just did it to prove to a mate that it would be stable, but it didn't get wet. A fridge is just a heat
exchanger really. As others have said it's not until you open it up that you get any moisture. Would be much easier now with all the cheap small
fridges you can get. I seem to rember I also experimented with a simple metal conductor, one end connected to the fridge gubbins and one end to the
heatsink. Happy (if skint) days!
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mcerd1
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| posted on 25/10/12 at 11:30 PM |
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about 10 years ago you used to be able to get refrigerated cases - they had heating elements to stick on the back of the MB to stop condensation
forming...
[Edited on 25/10/2012 by mcerd1]
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 25/10/12 at 11:56 PM |
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A small fridge won't be able to cope with anything like the heat output from from a PC. You could build an evaporative cooler which can work
pretty well.
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 26/10/12 at 12:10 AM |
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No point at all, the size of fridge you need to shift ~300-400W of heat output would be pretty large. It won't get damp as the moisture will
condense on the colder bits, which will be the walls of the fridge, not the warm computer.
You can buy peltier cooling systems to refridgerate the CPU/GPU etc directly, they DO have condensation issues as they're making the CPU the
coldest spot in a warm room, but they're also one of the best ways of getting the CPU cold.
Unless you're planning on massively overclocking it's pointless anyway.
By far the best idea for "coolness" is to build the computer into a fish tank and fill it with mineral oil, remove all fans and grin as
the oil removes the heat nice and quick and is insulating  <HSE> Don't do this unless you know what you're doing</HSE>
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Westy1994
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| posted on 26/10/12 at 01:04 AM |
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As per what coyoteboy says in his last paragraph. I did this 10 years ago with a clocked AMD, used normal sunflower oil as this is dielectric, so will
not affect the electrical systems of a PC at all, I did though leave a fan on, but not on the CPU, all it did was recirculate the oil around the
container thereby dispelling yet more heat. I had the system running for about 6 months without shutting the PC off once, I helped run a now defunct
IRC chat server, and as such it had to be online 24/7.
Using oil as a cooling medium is not without its issues though, after those 6 months, the room did kind of smell like your local chippy does on a busy
Friday night......
I tried watercooling but the oil was by far the better of the two.
Just my 2p's worth ....
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mcerd1
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| posted on 26/10/12 at 08:46 AM |
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this is the sort of thing I was meaning:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/Asetek-VapoChill-XE-II-Refrigerated-PC-Case_Peripheral_review
did see one that claimed to be able to overclock the compressor and run an old athlon 2600 or similar down to -30°C 
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Benzine
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| posted on 26/10/12 at 09:33 AM |
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I use a radiator from a mini, keeps everything nice and cool. It'd be nice if I could rig it up so the radiator was outside the house, in winter
it'd be cold as flip
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dhutch
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| posted on 26/10/12 at 11:54 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
...It'd be nice if I could rig it up so the radiator was outside the house, in winter ...
What you really want is it to draw air from
outside, and blow inside! Preheated fresh air!
Daniel
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