mookaloid
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 08:36 PM |
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ST170 Engine
Anyone know what the ST170 engine is?
i.e. is it basically a Zetec, or a Duratec HE or a Zetec SE or a mazda something or other?
more importantly, is a bell housing available for it to mate to a type 9 box?
Cheers
Mark
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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onzarob
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 08:38 PM |
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the new focus is a Duratec  I saw it on the engine cover
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mookaloid
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 08:42 PM |
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Well yes it says duratec ST on the top but it doesn't look like the duratec from the mondeo.
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 08:45 PM |
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st170 , apparently has the best flowing head out of all the ford range .
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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Fatboy Dave
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 08:46 PM |
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It's a blacktop Zetec R Focus engine with a VVC cylinder head.
Dave
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mookaloid
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 08:48 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Fatboy Dave
It's a blacktop Zetec R Focus engine with a VVC cylinder head.
So does that mean it will have a zetec block which will bolt straight to a type 9?
Cheers
Mark
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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saigonij
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 08:57 PM |
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yep
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Dave Bailey
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 09:02 PM |
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I have this engine in my Velocity although not run it yet!
It is a Zetec with two piece sump, bigger valves and VVT on the inlet only. The height of the engine is slightly taller due to the cam actuator so I
dropped my engine down slightly then for good measure dry sumped it. I have a type 9 with an ally bell housing and a dunnell lightened flywheel with a
Burton Power hydrualic clutch. The ECU to use is the DTA as it has a setting for the cam sensor so that you can run the VVT.
Hope this helps
Dave B
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mookaloid
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 09:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave Bailey
I have this engine in my Velocity although not run it yet!
It is a Zetec with two piece sump, bigger valves and VVT on the inlet only. The height of the engine is slightly taller due to the cam actuator so I
dropped my engine down slightly then for good measure dry sumped it. I have a type 9 with an ally bell housing and a dunnell lightened flywheel with a
Burton Power hydrualic clutch. The ECU to use is the DTA as it has a setting for the cam sensor so that you can run the VVT.
Hope this helps
Dave B
it does help thanks dave 
Cheers
Mark
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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saigonij
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 09:09 PM |
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dave, you need to get more pictures in your archive :-)
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onzarob
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 09:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid
Well yes it says duratec ST on the top but it doesn't look like the duratec from the mondeo.
Why does it say duratec then...bloody marketing people again, i suspect
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Dave Bailey
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 09:17 PM |
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okey dokey!
I'll ask the wife but not sure she would be happy with me posting pictures of her! Will more pictures of the car do?
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mookaloid
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 09:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by onzarob
quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid
Well yes it says duratec ST on the top but it doesn't look like the duratec from the mondeo.
Why does it say duratec then...bloody marketing people again, i suspect
even worse - you can buy a ford mondeo zetec and under the bonnet is .......yup a duratec
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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UncleFista
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 09:29 PM |
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The ST170 engine also has steel rods and forged pistons (so I've read) some people take them to 8krpm.
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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Dave Bailey
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 09:31 PM |
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Yep agreed! they certainly do! I have throttle bodies also on mine so I am hoping for 190 - 200 bhp!
few more pictures added..will get some more loaded at the weekend!
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mookaloid
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 09:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by UncleFista
The ST170 engine also has steel rods and forged pistons (so I've read) some people take them to 8krpm.
mmmmm even more interesting - I guess they can give more than 170bhp then?
Cheers
Mark
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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Dave Bailey
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 09:35 PM |
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220 I am told tuned right and with the correct manifold/exhaust.... Not sure I believe it!
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RazMan
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 10:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave Bailey
220 I am told tuned right and with the correct manifold/exhaust.... Not sure I believe it!
You'd be hard pushed to get that out of the V6!
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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stevebubs
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 11:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave Bailey
220 I am told tuned right and with the correct manifold/exhaust.... Not sure I believe it!
If you want more, pull it out and bolt an original Focus RS engine in - that was a turbocharged phase 3 engine....
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stevebubs
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 11:32 PM |
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By the way, if you're looking to get an ST170 engine, make sure you get the full induction side of the ancillaries as well.
If my previous observations are correct, the inlet manifold is a 2 piece affair. Separate the 2 pieces and you end up with an inlet manifold that is
easy to mount bike carbs/bodies onto using nothing more complex than silicon hose.
S
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stevebubs
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 11:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RazMan
You'd be hard pushed to get that out of the V6!
You can with a turbo
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RazMan
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| posted on 18/12/07 at 03:36 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
quote:
Originally posted by RazMan
You'd be hard pushed to get that out of the V6!
You can with a turbo
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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