carlknight1982
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| posted on 11/4/08 at 03:25 PM |
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Paddle shift
How hard is it do convert the type 9 box to use paddle shift?
can you buy a kit to do it ? im just thinking it would look pretty cool
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 11/4/08 at 03:32 PM |
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not heard of one, cheaper option would be to turn it into a BEC with paddle shift, unless someone knows of a cheap kit...
I'd be interested to hear replies to this one.
quote:
Originally posted by carlknight1982
How hard is it do convert the type 9 box to use paddle shift?
can you buy a kit to do it ? im just thinking it would look pretty cool
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Lippoman
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| posted on 11/4/08 at 03:32 PM |
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Paddle shift only works on sequential gearboxes so major surgery needed. I think there are sequential conversion kits for the 9, but at a cost...
There are also some gadgets that use electric actuators to change gear that can be controlled by paddles.
Will add links when I find them...
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Aico
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| posted on 11/4/08 at 03:33 PM |
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It's a H-gearbox not a sequential one so paddle shift is not possible.
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grub
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| posted on 11/4/08 at 03:36 PM |
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O DEAR ME
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Delinquent
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| posted on 11/4/08 at 03:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Aico
It's a H-gearbox not a sequential one so paddle shift is not possible.
you can convert an H to a sequential with a bit of imagination and rudimentary tools, I've seen it done with a Subaru box.
Personally if I were considering flappy paddles I'd only consider it if it were clutchless and attached to a DSG 'box (hence my question
on DSG boxes in this forum...)
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zilspeed
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| posted on 11/4/08 at 03:53 PM |
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As stated above.
1) It is possible.
2) But you do need to have the box to sequential operation first.
3) This does cost a fortune.
No need for flamery of any sort IMHO, not every one of us knows everything... 
[Edited on 11/4/08 by zilspeed]
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mark.s
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| posted on 11/4/08 at 04:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by grub
O DEAR ME
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 11/4/08 at 05:02 PM |
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The IKEYA Sequen Shifter converts an H pattern box into a sequential shift, but I don't
suppose they make one for the Type 9.
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jono_misfit
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| posted on 11/4/08 at 05:06 PM |
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Thats not strictly true about it needing to be sequential. Its just easier.
All that is required for a padle shift is a method of actuating the shift forks.
Type 9 gearboxs use some nicely accessible shift rods in the tail housing. Its possible to fit actuators to these and use some form of microcontroller
control to give you a padle shift.
Ive never seen a kit but its something im looking at developing for my avenger once its running.
Paying someone to do it for you isnt likely to be cheep though.
The ikeya shifters usualy have a barrel in the shift level and use it to give different timing on the shift rods / cables
[Edited on 11/4/08 by jono_misfit]
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motorcycle_mayhem
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| posted on 11/4/08 at 08:00 PM |
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At AutoSport I did see and operate a peice of kit that did turn an H selector into a simple push button operation, operated by compressed air, seemed
to work well. I recall it being 'Geartronics'
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D Beddows
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| posted on 11/4/08 at 08:42 PM |
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If you want a paddle shift fit a bike engine, end of story really  anything else will either cost you about the same as the average total build
cost of a 7alike or be an unreliable pile of junk tbh
But feel free to find that out for yourself 
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 11/4/08 at 08:52 PM |
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Quaife will sell you a Type 9 box with a sequential shift - make sure that you're sitting down when you ask the price... 
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Mole
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| posted on 11/4/08 at 09:15 PM |
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As above, have a look on Burton Power. Suggest you dial 999 first.
OMFG
[Edited on 11/4/08 by Mole]
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ditchlewis
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| posted on 11/4/08 at 09:22 PM |
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sequential box £4495
if you paddle shift say £5k. not lowcost
ditch
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jono_misfit
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| posted on 12/4/08 at 12:05 AM |
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Its amazing how negative people on this forum can be at times. Sometimes it doesnt read as constructive advice, just peoples personal prejudice.
If your seriously intersted id start reading up on microcontrollers (like a PIC for which there is a massive home use community) and begin designing
something bespoke yourself in terms of shift mechanism.
There is no reason why if suitably desinged such a system would be any less reliable than an equivalent shifter for a BEC, or at a cost approaching
that of a build for a 7esque car.
The design ive complete (although not yet built and developed) costs up at something near £300 which, with the exception of the one Ron allegedly
built, is a lot less than a Locost.
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D Beddows
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| posted on 12/4/08 at 12:52 AM |
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Most things can be done if you really want to or really have to - nothing wrong with that, and nothing wrong with a bit of innovation either BUT with
something like this it has to be asked is it actually worth the time and money you'll spend converting an H pattern box to paddle shift when a
decent bike engine with a sequential box (effectively free) that's hugely easier to hook up a paddle shift to can be yours for about £1K?
Sometimes, in fact quite often, practicality is mistaken for negativity on this forum. If you want the challenge then fair enough you go for it but
otherwise why make your life stupidly hard or expensive 
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jono_misfit
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| posted on 12/4/08 at 09:22 AM |
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You are of course entitled to your opinion as is everyone.
I stand by my comments.
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