john_p_b
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| posted on 14/7/08 at 08:20 PM |
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toyota 3sge engine?
howdy.
just bought a mk2 toyota mr2 with a knocky small end but it's come with a spare engine which i'll be fitting in the very near future. this
will of course leave me with the other engine which my initial thoughts were to strip the head off and sell what i can to recover some
costs..........BUT! has anyone ever fitted one in a 7 style car? would it fit? it's a completely random idea so thought i'd just run it
here to get some thoughts back on it. 156bhp 2.0 16v 
built a car, built a home, had a family. lost the family, lost the home, still got the car.
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tasmin289
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| posted on 14/7/08 at 08:30 PM |
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Popular donor engine in Australia, RWD toyota gearboxes probably ten a penny down under. Getting a ready to fit RWD gearbox in UK might be harder to
find. Also a very heavy engine.
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chrism
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| posted on 14/7/08 at 08:52 PM |
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RAW Engineering do a FWD to RWD conversion for the toyota 4age engine.
http://www.rawengineering.co.uk/RAW_engines.html
Would have thought that it would have the same bellhouse pattern.
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rick q
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| posted on 14/7/08 at 11:00 PM |
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3SGE's used to be standard fitment on the Fraser Clubman made in NZ. Kaspa on this site had one of the meanest of all, ultimately putting out
close to 300hp while still registered. He's a bit of a font of knowledge on the things if you want to pm him. I know he's just put
another one together for 200hp at the wheels.
Have a look at http://www.oz-clubbies.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7232&hl=3sge
If you do pm him, tell him Rick says he's a sheep shagger!!!
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thepest
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| posted on 15/7/08 at 06:44 AM |
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lexus gearbox will bolt straight on. The early lexus is200 used the 2L 3sg block so you would prob get away with using the stock clutch flywheel etc.
I just installed a 3sgte in my MR2 so I have the 3sge spare as well. Also I have a mate of mine who has a 3sGTE in his ford escort
(link), he flanged the engine to a Borg Wagner Gearbox so that is also possible.
All depends on whats avail in the UK and what the costs are.
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thepest
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| posted on 15/7/08 at 06:57 AM |
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found another for ya (link)
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nz_climber
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| posted on 15/7/08 at 10:54 AM |
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Hi there, just will put in my quick word and support for the 3sge! They can be mated to many gear boxes, any w5* series box will do or the lexus
6speed which I have.
Yes it might also be a heavy engine, but from some specs I saw a while ago only put it 15kg heavier than a 16v 4age and only 3kgs more than a 4agze.
(not sure how correct they are, but will try and weigh mine sometime)
Fraser in nz have been running with them for ages, both with carbs and fuel injection and also in turbo form too.
Just a note thou, the beams 3sge (from the lexus is200)is a pretty tall engine, and fitting it under the bonnet is a problem, mine is now dry sumped
(the engine from the mr2 will be fine thou - head is shorter, sump will need to be modified. and doesn't have the massive plenum mine does)
check out the link in my signature for the pictures of mine.
http://aarons7.wordpress.com
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thomas4age
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| posted on 16/7/08 at 12:03 AM |
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very nice engine to have in a 7, the 3sge weighs the same as a zetec if irc.
there's one going on a UN1 renautl box in a midtec spider. but that's offcourse a midengined one.
the lexus engine is a beams 3sge and has over 200hp stock, gearbox of that is the one you're after A GEM!
grtz Thomas.
If Lucas made guns, Wars wouldn't start either.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 16/7/08 at 07:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chrism
RAW Engineering do a FWD to RWD conversion for the toyota 4age engine.
http://www.rawengineering.co.uk/RAW_engines.html
Would have thought that it would have the same bellhouse pattern.
Unfortunately not, they are quite different.
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rick q
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 03:12 AM |
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I forgot - there's a good bit of detail on Bill Sherwood's site showing the Altezza being fitted to his Fraser Clubman. Frasers are the
same dimensions as the original 7 for what it's worth.
See : http://www.billzilla.org/fraser.htm
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john_p_b
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 12:50 PM |
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thanks for the replies folks. i might put the engine to one side then rather than stripping it to sell off the parts. could be a interesting project
for winter!
built a car, built a home, had a family. lost the family, lost the home, still got the car.
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