40inches
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Do we have a new IVA inspector on board?
reme101? only 3 posts so far, all on the abrasive side and condescending to say the least  on the other hand it may just be me misinterpreting
his intentions, if so, I apologise 
Quotes:
"Its not the tester being an arse, its a legal requirement and a saftey issue."
"Unless you were actually holding the db meter I would recommend that you don’t make defamatory remarks that you cant substantiate in
court."
"Who is building the vehicle? I think its you.... So bearing that in mind.... And reading the appropriate section in the manual.... MAKE ONE
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[Edited on 27-10-09 by 40inches]
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tegwin
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| posted on 27/10/09 at 09:54 PM | |
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LOL..... sounds about right...
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Would the last person who leaves the country please switch off the lights and close the door!
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adithorp
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| posted on 27/10/09 at 09:57 PM | |
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Possibly but, although those comments might be seen as a bit abasive/blunt, he's got a point. Why beat about the bush?
adrian
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 27/10/09 at 09:59 PM | |
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Shouldn't have rumbled him so soon, might have got interesting lol!
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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austin man
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| posted on 27/10/09 at 10:08 PM | |
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ex forces is my bet
Royal Electrical Mechanical Engineers 101 workshop ??
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 27/10/09 at 10:23 PM | |
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I'm ex REME (Armourer) and I have never adressed anyone in that tone on here.
Could he be a Royal Artillery wannabe?
I wouldn't normally make a comment like that, but three postings is a bit early for someone to get the matches out.
[Edited on 27/10/09 by Confused but excited.]
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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Mr G
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| posted on 27/10/09 at 10:35 PM | |
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Mot Tester Forums
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austin man
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| posted on 27/10/09 at 10:35 PM | |
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My dad was ex REME some 24 years as mechanic Im going by his user Id as a guess as I recall my dad being assigned to different workshop generally
numbered. I agree my old chap also would have been a little more corteous with his word usage
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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StevieB
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| posted on 27/10/09 at 10:50 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by Confused but excited.
I'm ex REME (Armourer) and I have never adressed anyone in that tone on here.
Could he be a Royal Artillery wannabe?
I wouldn't normally make a comment like that, but three postings is a bit early for someone to get the matches out.
[Edited on 27/10/09 by Confused but excited.]
Sadly some of the younger servicemen tend to be a little less disceplined these days (saying that, I'm only 31 but like to think I have a little
common decency - generally speaking....)
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AdrianH
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| posted on 27/10/09 at 10:55 PM | |
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Perhaps!
I would personally like to find an IVA tester on here from Chadderton or any centre for that matter.
I have lots of what if questions from time to time, we all do.
They are not the enemy, they keep unsafe vehicles off the road. Give people chance to sort simple faults whilst there and give advice generally when
asked.
So we (I) do not like it when our years of work fails the test, but it has to be in our (my) interest to get it sorted. The manual has been revised
several times I believe after consultation with car builders with our interests at hart and it must make our cars that little bit safer now than years
ago.
Adrian
MOT inspectors are the same aren't they?
[Edited on 27-10-09 by AdrianH]
Why do I have to make the tools to finish the job? More time then money.
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ReMan
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| posted on 27/10/09 at 11:01 PM | |
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The last one came and went after making overly black and white statements never to be seen again , without a bit of subjective opinion this would be
a dull game
BTW there's also an Insurance company quality Control officer here too............
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=123658
Be aware
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westf27
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| posted on 27/10/09 at 11:20 PM | |
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maybe if you ask him politely he would be quite happy to provide his background,but there again he may have just got ticked off having been pre
judged.Only my opinion of course 
555
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 07:09 AM | |
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I think it would be great to have an IVA inspector on here. Think of all the 'gray' area's that could be cleared up.
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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Agriv8
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 07:23 AM | |
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The problem is that each inspector has his 'take' on the 'Rule Book' so what is ok with one will be a big No no for
another.
regards
Agriv8
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 07:56 AM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by Agriv8
The problem is that each inspector has his 'take' on the 'Rule Book' so what is ok with one will be a big No no for
another.
regards
Agriv8
Tbh that too would be a good reason for an inspector to join us, it would help unify the test structure.
I don’t think most IVA testers would be arrogant and unhelpful, which seems a shame that the poster is being assumed as one just because of the tone
of his posts. I’m sure most go into that job because they enjoy cars and more likely they’d prefer to pass cars so long as they meet sensible
standards.
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reme101
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 09:07 AM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
reme101? only 3 posts so far, all on the abrasive side and condescending to say the least on the other hand it may just be me misinterpreting
his intentions, if so, I apologise
Quotes:
"Its not the tester being an arse, its a legal requirement and a saftey issue."
"Unless you were actually holding the db meter I would recommend that you don’t make defamatory remarks that you cant substantiate in
court."
"Who is building the vehicle? I think its you.... So bearing that in mind.... And reading the appropriate section in the manual.... MAKE ONE
!!"
[Edited on 27-10-09 by 40inches]
Hi everyone, in answer to some of the replies
No I’m not an IVA examiner
I'm a mechanic
I am ex REME and I used to own a 101" Landrover
Yes I am blunt and to the point, I find it cuts out all the confusion
Some of you might find my next comment a little abrasive too - I have been reading on here for quite a while and I have found that a lot, not all,
would rather try to circumvent a requirement than build it correctly and when they fail its the inspectors fault and not their own - who is building
the car?? Take responsibility!!
Light blue touch paper, stand well back and enjoy!
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 09:21 AM | |
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Did they do a 101" land rover? Not sure iv seen one of them
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 09:36 AM | |
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yes, but it doesnt look like somthing youd imagine as a landrover, its an old military vehicle
Reme101 I also see the kinds of things you'r referring to, the biggest one being self centring. That said, Ive been guilty of dodging the regs
in the past on emissions or whatever (ie where they arent safety related)
My Build Thread
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myke pocock
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 09:37 AM | |
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Quote: "I have been reading on here for quite a while and I have found that a lot, not all, would rather try to circumvent a requirement than
build it correctly"
Sorry mate, but I take exception to that one as well. I think you will find that there are A FEW who MAY try to get round things but it all comes out
at the test generally. If you make those kinds off comments on a site like this then do not be suprised if you get no help to a question in the
future.
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Staple balls
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 09:54 AM | |
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I don't truly think anyone here tries to avoid the important regulations, just pass the not safety related ones in ways which may later fall
off.
There's other stuff that's just not so easy to get right if you can't drive the car, so I can understand them getting skipped a
little until the IVA is out of the way.
oh, and treat people how you'd like to be treated, it'll get you far more help than the route you appear to be taking.
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SeaBass
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 10:29 AM | |
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adithorp
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 10:35 AM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by alistairolsen
yes, but it doesnt look like somthing youd imagine as a landrover, its an old military vehicle
Reme101 I also see the kinds of things you'r referring to, the biggest one being self centring. That said, Ive been guilty of dodging the regs
in the past on emissions or whatever (ie where they arent safety related)
The trouble is some people have different opinions on what is "safety related".
Collapsable steering wheel regs were brought in because of the number of injuries caused by the old wheels, or the same applies to radiused dash
lower edge. How many of us moan about that or change them later?
A little more tact wouldn't go amiss... though but there's plenty of blunt stuff which is worse from other members; "All coppers are
bastards!", etc.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 10:51 AM | |
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Eh? What?! I heard that Mr Thorp
[Edited on 28/10/09 by mistergrumpy]
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oldtimer
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 10:57 AM | |
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I am very happy to have IVA inspectors using this site and contributing in a positive and constructive way. There are grey areas to discuss and this
is an ideal forum for it. I think what wears most of us down, and I'm not singling out any one person or group here, is the highly opinionated,
subjective commenting that goes on.
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reme101
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 12:08 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by oldtimer
I am very happy to have IVA inspectors using this site and contributing in a positive and constructive way. There are grey areas to discuss and this
is an ideal forum for it. I think what wears most of us down, and I'm not singling out any one person or group here, is the highly opinionated,
subjective commenting that goes on.
I’m not an IVA inspector.
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When this thread was first started it was incorrectly mentioned that I had only posted 3 times, I had in fact posted 4 times the one you missed was
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Originally posted by LBMEFM
Oh well this is it my last chance. Re-test Monday AM at Gillingham. First failure untidy wiring, sharp bits, speedo, noise etc etc etc. Second failure
emissions Co%vol 10.44, Co2 %vol 8.3, O2 %vol 0.06, HC 2140ppm. After Andy Bates had done his work my local garage gave me these results for the
car.Co%vol 0.01, Co2%vol 14.28, O2 %vol 1.16HC 183ppm. They tell me this is fine and a pass for a 93' Fireblade engine. I do not quite get it
the Co2 %vol is now higher together with the O2%vol, is this OK or is it the Co%vol and the HC ppm that is the most important bit, still concerned?.
[Edited on 25/7/09 by LBMEFM]
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Good luck for today !!!
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To give some more insight to the other posts –
This was the question –
manufacturer plate
thanks for the fluid help. any help with this one please. read through the iva manual and it mentions a manufacturers plate. building a viento so any
ideas what I need to do?
This is my answer –
Who is building the vehicle? I think its you.... So bearing that in mind.... And reading the appropriate section in the manual.... MAKE ONE !!
Maybe a little sharp, but the point I was trying to make and this is how I read the manual, the manufacturers plate need to be made by the
manufacturer and if you are building the vehicle then you are the manufacturer and can therefore make one your self.
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This is my response –
Its not the tester being an arse, it’s a legal requirement and a safety issue.
To this response –
I suspect he'll want to leave it idling at some point.
Does it go into neutral at all?
can't imagine he'll be best pleased, if he's an arse he might refuse to test it. If he's understanding it might be ok
With other responses –
I think the tester might want neutral when doing the emissions, just fix the car before you end up crashing it
Fit a proper engine and box! As said the tester is well within his rights to refuse to test it
Was my response any different?
cd.thomson clearly agreed with me as he posted this reply –
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Originally posted by reme101
Its not the tester being an arse, its a legal requirement and a saftey issue.
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Note the smiley!
And this reply –
Unless you were actually holding the db meter I would recommend that you don’t make defamatory remarks that you cant substantiate in court.
Was a reply to this –
Had my test at Gillingham in Kent. My first test and the tester said my steering wheel was not type approved, radius were ok.
On my retest I was already to fit my Sierra steering wheel after passing all the other bits. Tester says oh dont bother that wheel is not a fail
anyway.... WTF either it is a fail or it isn't.
Think they just make it up as they go along.
Then the next car they passed on Noise test even tho it was several decibels above the limit.
The above comment I think is libellous and my response is helpful as I am quite sure nobody would like to end up in court. Clearly Ben didn’t have a
very good experience of his IVA.
Another response on the same thread was –
I swear the tester I had must have been abused as a child!
I don’t think anybody can truthfully say that that is a fair or appropriate comment?
Now with the above information giving a bigger picture, am I really a troll that shouldn’t be fed??
[Edited on 29/10/09 by reme101]
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