adithorp
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 12:10 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by mistergrumpy
Eh? What?! I heard that Mr Thorp  
[Edited on 28/10/09 by mistergrumpy]
Only quoting/paraphrasing(?) others...I could have put "All garages/mechanics are bastards"!
Mr Thorp
(mechanic and garage owner... for those that don't get the irony).
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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oldtimer
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 12:35 PM | |
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Steady on Reme!, my comment was not directed at you.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 12:52 PM | |
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I must admit that I have sympathy with reme's views:
The IVA regs are there for a purpose - why not try and fix things properly, rather than faff around trying to get around them.
Getting stuff right (especially self-centering, brake efficiency/balance) makes the car much nicer and safer to drive.
Obeying the rules, and not blatently trying to avoid them, reduces the risk of some government official interfering with the IVA (i.e. making it much
harder) or even getting rid of it (so no kit cars - much like the rest of Europe).
Just my 2p's worth...
[Edited on 28/10/09 by David Jenkins]
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Benzine
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 01:15 PM | |
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tl;dr
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 01:16 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
tl;dr
haha!
Craig
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 02:24 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
I must admit that I have sympathy with reme's views:
The IVA regs are there for a purpose - why not try and fix things properly, rather than faff around trying to get around them.
Getting stuff right (especially self-centering, brake efficiency/balance) makes the car much nicer and safer to drive.
Obeying the rules, and not blatently trying to avoid them, reduces the risk of some government official interfering with the IVA (i.e. making it much
harder) or even getting rid of it (so no kit cars - much like the rest of Europe).
Just my 2p's worth...
[Edited on 28/10/09 by David Jenkins]
exactly what I was trying to say. The odd radius or whatever isnt an issue and is an annoying reason for a retest but submitting a car with 40psi in
the front tyres, 5 degrees of toe out and valve springs in the rack is just irresponsible.
My Build Thread
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austin man
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 03:40 PM | |
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Least I was right about the occupation
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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Brommers
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 04:18 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by SeaBass
Seconded. It's not even as if he's a funny troll. I do think the quality of trolling has gone down these days. I remember the days when
a decent troll was provocative and witty. Nowadays they're just obnoxious and rude. All the more reason not to feed them.
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reme101
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 04:29 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by oldtimer
Steady on Reme!, my comment was not directed at you.
Many apologies, my rant was not directed at you.
I have found that what can be read as innocent just before you hit the "post reply" button can be read as offensive 30 seconds later.
Even when you have used grammar.
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SeaBass
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 04:41 PM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by reme101
Now with the above information giving a bigger picture, am I really a troll that shouldn’t be fed??
Well - I couldn't follow much of your response and already you seem to thrive on conflict? Troll or not - your not being that much help
chief.
quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
tl;dr
Had to look it up!
[Edited on 28/10/09 by SeaBass]
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mad-butcher
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 05:08 PM | |
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Just for info there are sva inspectors who are members of this forum, but if you think about it they are not going to admit to being one for obvious
reasons, just look at some of the well phrased and technical replies to some issues of sva/iva, also how do you think they catch onto things like
springs in steering racks which are hidden behind rubber boots
tony
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DRC INDY 7
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 08:28 PM | |
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Magic pure magic
https://www.facebook.com/groups/462610273778799/
Puddle Dodgers Club
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reme101
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 07:46 AM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by SeaBass
quote:
Originally posted by reme101
Now with the above information giving a bigger picture, am I really a troll that shouldn’t be fed??
Well - I couldn't follow much of your response and already you seem to thrive on conflict? Troll or not - your not being that much help
chief.
quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
tl;dr
Had to look it up!
[Edited on 28/10/09 by SeaBass]
No I don’t thrive on conflict, I am trying to defend my self against a pack a ravening wolves!
I can see why any IVA inspector would leave this site as you seem to be confrontational and aggressive towards anyone who doesn’t agree with you (not
everyone of course just a small few ignorant individuals).
And to those individuals I say “good luck in your build and IVA inspection” because you are going to need it.
I don’t think I shall bother to post on here anymore which will be music to some ears.
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MikeR
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 08:32 AM | |
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and a shame to many others.
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 09:30 AM | |
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That was good. We've not had any excitement on here for a while now.
More seriously though. I can tell that the dark nights are drawing in and Winter's coming as the back biting seems to have started again. In the
3.5 years or so that I've been here this always seems to happen.As soon as people start with the Christmas avatars and someone posts about the
forum clock being wrong Very predictable and regular as clockwork.
[Edited on 29/10/09 by mistergrumpy]
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SeaBass
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 12:51 PM | |
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Great - you didn't help anyone, now your no longer going to post... A large dose of win.
Good job I passed SVA first time with no faults (by reading the manual) otherwise, obviously, I'd need your help for the IVA!
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reme101
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 08:08 PM | |
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[Edited on 29/10/09 by reme101]
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Fozzie
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 12:14 AM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
I must admit that I have sympathy with reme's views:
The IVA regs are there for a purpose - why not try and fix things properly, rather than faff around trying to get around them.
Getting stuff right (especially self-centering, brake efficiency/balance) makes the car much nicer and safer to drive.
Obeying the rules, and not blatently trying to avoid them, reduces the risk of some government official interfering with the IVA (i.e. making it much
harder) or even getting rid of it (so no kit cars - much like the rest of Europe).
Just my 2p's worth...
[Edited on 28/10/09 by David Jenkins]
Totally agree with you David.
Reading the above posts, after receiving a few 'reported' u2u's, it does seem to me as though a few need to chill a little. 
If we do have MOT testers, or IVA inspectors as members of this forum, then we should think ourselves as very lucky!
We truly do have the entire kit and caboodle to get the cars built, tested, and on the road SAFELY.
The last place to cut corners of the build is at the IVA..after all it is YOUR safety as well as for your passenger(s), and for everyone
else's safety that happens to be on the road at the time.....
In case you haven't gathered, my pet thing with these self build cars is safety......
However, I do not believe that anybody here has deliberately tried to get around an SVA/IVA safety issue.
reme101, Ben's post wasn't defamatory at all. If you followed all of his SVA threads, you would realise that he wasn't accusing
anyone of actually making up the rules, but more of an exasperated expression, as in, on SVA test 1, the steering wheel was a fail, on SVA 2, the same
thing was a 'pass'....... I cannot see anything remotely malicious in Bens post.
I cannot see any practical reason for the origin of this thread to be honest. If anyone has a problem with a poster's 'tone' than
surely it is better to try and sort it out one to one by u2u.
Some people write in a style that 'cuts to the chase', whilst some waffle on endlessly but say nothing......so a little more patience and
understanding please....
As long as the forum rules are adhered to, everyone is very welcome on this forum.....
Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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Staple balls
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 12:24 AM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
As long as the forum rules are adhered to, everyone is very welcome on this forum.....
So what are the rules? I'm not sure I've seen them laid out anywhere. 
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Fozzie
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 12:41 AM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by Staple balls
quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
As long as the forum rules are adhered to, everyone is very welcome on this forum.....
So what are the rules? I'm not sure I've seen them laid out anywhere.
Smart Alec......
For new members (since at least mid 2007.... if not earlier....), they have to verify by phone, where the terms and conditions are stated verbally, by
continuing the registration, the new member has therefore accepted the terms.
For those who registered prior to that......you know the score...
Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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Staple balls
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 12:43 AM | |
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Ahh.
I wasn't aware of that, what with being here when it was all fields.
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Fozzie
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 12:47 AM | |
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quote:
Originally posted by Staple balls
Ahh.
I wasn't aware of that, what with being here when it was all fields.
oo I remember those fields back then too!
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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Staple balls
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 12:51 AM | |
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They were nice fields, lovely fun roads between them too.
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Fozzie
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 12:58 AM | |
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Oooo yes.... no speed humps, traffic calming, cameras or gatso's.... them were the days!... mutter, mutter....... sigh!
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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Staple balls
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 12:59 AM | |
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Ahh, to think I wasn't a miserable old git back then
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