I'm trying not to blame all 4x4 drivers, but...

I went out for a blast along some nice twisty country roads this morning, and 3 or 4 times came across various Discovery/Land Cruiser type vehicles way over on my side of the road!

It seems that they want to corner at the same speed as smaller cars, which they can't do by staying in lane. So, on blind corners, they cross the white line before the bend to get a good swing in, and go across the line on the exit because of the speed they're doing...

IT'S A LUMBERING GREAT TANK! SLOW DOWN BEFORE YOU HIT SOMEONE!

Feel better for saying that...

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I have to say i agree. If they want a big car, get a jag It will easily corner at speed and stay on the right side of the road.
Although i must say its not just 4x4's. I nearly ran into a 406 the other day because he was trying his best to make me hit the parked cars, so i just stopped in the road and made him swerve round me

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Originally posted by donut

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You talking about the vehicle or driver? Either way i qualify for both!!

However i don't have a 4x4 but i do drive a 7 seater and they DON'T handle!!

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yes and do you notice these bastards never move over for you......... Oh yes I've got a big car look at how big my dick must be - moove over - on to the muddy verge (gasp horror) - my nice clean 4x4 - get it MUDDY (faint)....

Not to say I've got a bit of a bee in my bonnet over crappy 4x4 drivers I just hate hypocrites who are so insecure they can't even be polite.

I could go on- and on - and on it's so easy with all the horsy townees living in our area pretending to be country folk but never joining in - unless they need summat.

Rant over.

I couldn't believe one a few years back - I came round a corner to find a Discovery on my side of the road - the reason? There was a 4" deep puddle on the other side!

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Originally posted by David Jenkins
I couldn't believe one a few years back - I came round a corner to find a Discovery on my side of the road - the reason? There was a 4" deep puddle on the other side!

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Originally posted by David Jenkins
I'm trying not to blame all 4x4 drivers, but...

I went out for a blast along some nice twisty country roads this morning, and 3 or 4 times came across various Discovery/Land Cruiser type vehicles way over on my side of the road!

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i drive one as my daily vehicle
and i drive one all day at work
and the only time i cross the white line
is to pass some k**b in a 800cc city car
doing 20mph trying to save fuel and the
palnaet
or even planet

[Edited on 16/9/07 by nige]

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Originally posted by nige
i drive one as my daily vehicle
and i drive one all day at work
and the only time i cross the white line
is to pass some k**b in a 800cc city car
doing 20mph trying to save fuel and the
palnaet
or even planet

[Edited on 16/9/07 by nige]

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Originally posted by David Jenkins
I couldn't believe one a few years back - I came round a corner to find a Discovery on my side of the road - the reason? There was a 4" deep puddle on the other side!

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Well I live in town so hate all 4*4s (and their drivers) cos 99.9% are just for people that lazy that they require a flipping massive car to haul around their fat lazy arse.

Thursday morning I was trying to get to work. Rather misty dingy morning. I hate to wait for 3 minutes whilst the person in front tried to reverse park their Porsche Cayeenne into a space about twice as long as the car.... It probably wasn't helped by the fact that they were determined to continue wearing their sunglasses Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!!!!!!! Wearing sunglasses on a dingy dark morning just about sums up poncy gits driving grotesque 4*4s that are too big for their (admitidly limited) driving skills. Lets face it, outside of the country (where people might actually need 4*4 capability for off-roading), 4*4s and SUVs are only attractive to one group of people.... Bone idle, arrogant, antisocial, selfish, ignorant tw@ts. (unless of course they also own a 7 in which case they're just misguided )

I think 4*4 drivers in London should be forced to display special plates. Like the P or L plates but with a T on it.....

Oooooh- that feels better!!!!

Nothing like a vent against the nouveau-riche petite bourgeoisie with the taste, decorum and awareness of others of a turnip.......

i want a land rover. proper old skool one

mad4x4 - have I hit a nerve?

Driving round the country lanes - I stick to my allocated lane, and rarely exceed the speed limit. If there was a police car behind me he would not have any reason to pull me over.

Avoiding the puddle - I was doing less than 30 in a 30mph zone. He was doing around 25. There was absolutely no reason why he should be on my side of the road.

So please stop having a go at me without knowing all the facts.

"That's it I starting the " Keep the 4x4 off the verge campaign " so car owners watch out!"

I think that campaign has been running around here for a while now.

Even in the countryside most 4X4 drivers don't need a 4X4 and have one because the have to keep up with the Jonses on the school run.

Nick

Well I/we have an off roader as I need one to tow my big (3200kgs) trailer. We cant afford to run two everyday cars so it has to be an off roader. TBH I am fed up with people knocking off roaders when its really just down to the fact people cant drive.

Another thing that gets me is people who should know better call them 4x4 which they arnt unless you mean things like scobies aswell.

Also, I bet I get more MPG with my off roader than most of you get with your 7. So you cant call off roaders bad for the environment and then drive a 7.

That's why I started off talking about 'big vehicles' and not '4x4'.

I have no problem with anyone driving a discovery-type vehicle if they need one, and often those people don't drive them stupidly anyway. I have several friends who drive these vehicles, mostly very well. In fact, my brother runs a Discovery - but he does live in the back of beyond in Scotland, and his son is a gamekeeper who lives out in the wilds.

I DO have problems with those people who buy these things (a) because the think they're safer (b) because they think they're trendy. I once followed one of these things along country lanes, watching it cut corners, ride over verges, driving at silly speeds (for that type of car) and generally being a hazard. When I finally passed the car, it was a mother and kids - they'd have been MUCH safer in a Volvo.

[Edited on 16/9/07 by David Jenkins]

Afterthought...

It's worth noting that I encountered quite a few ordinary saloons coming the other way this morning. All of them, without exception, driven at some speed on their own side of the road, and caused me no bother whatsoever.

You forgot to mention that the majority of 4x4 drivers are extremely agressive - witness some of the dire threats on the posts here. They take their agression out on other drivers - how? - by not being seen to give way, by having a safer car - for them - but not for everyone else. Sod them seems to be the prevailing attitude. What about the other poor souls who are intimidated by these bullies - and then the same morions will turn round and whine that they are not accepted by the community at large.

Dammit I,ve started ranting again - now see what you've done!!!!

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Originally posted by v8kid
Dammit I,ve started ranting again - now see what you've done!!!!

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Originally posted by David Jenkins
I have no problem with anyone driving a discovery-type vehicle if they need one, and often those people don't drive them stupidly anyway. I have several friends who drive these vehicles, mostly very well. In fact, my brother runs a Discovery - but he does live in the back of beyond in Scotland, and his son is a gamekeeper who lives out in the wilds.

I DO have problems with those people who buy these things (a) because the think they're safer (b) because they think they're trendy. I once followed one of these things along country lanes, watching it cut corners, ride over verges, driving at silly speeds (for that type of car) and generally being a hazard. When I finally passed the car, it was a mother and kids - they'd have been MUCH safer in a Volvo.

[Edited on 16/9/07 by David Jenkins]

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Bone idle, arrogant, antisocial, selfish, ignorant tw@ts.

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Doesn't matter what kind of vehicle it is, people are still going to drive badly. No point crying about large vehicles when the drivers are to blame.

BTW, what sort of trucks haul dirt around in the UK? I can't imagine the tandem axle trucks here running around the tight lanes over there.

We get quite large agricultural trucks round here, especially at this time of the year. Fortunately, most of them are driven at speeds appropriate to the conditions.

That was my main point in the first post - I really don't care if someone wants a big vehicle, but they must appreciate that it won't handle in the same way as even a family saloon, and swinging over the white line so they can corner faster is hazardous to everyone's health.

David - I think that you hit more than one nerve there!!!

Don't you think that driving in general has got worse though? It seems like a game of chicken on the roads these days - lets see how close the BMW driver on the motorway can get to you before he scares you witless and you move over for him!
Look how many more parking dents your tin top gets every week.
These people don't all fit into the same bracket other than having little regard for me or my cars.

I am a cyclist and by far the worst are delivery drivers and mothers in MPV's. I was under the side of a 7.5 ton box van one day as he drove around me on a country lane. I was still vertical but half of my bike was under his truck and the other was up against a wall!!! Still HAD to go through though

bloody hell we're all at it now!!

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Originally posted by I love speed :-P
And off roaders are safer. The n cap rating may not be as good however there is a group which goes around and studies crashes and if you have an off roader there is a less chance of dieing it was something like 1% in a land rover and about 60% in a mini.

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I'm in Chicago at the moment, while the driving here seems far better than most other places i've been stateside, they are some monstrous sized beats around lol.

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Originally posted by JoelP
the thing about safety is not about the driver of the SUV (im in america now, time for american words ), but of the poor soul who is in the other car. Big car driver is safe due to his mass, not necessarily his design, whereas the dude in the little car will get totalled!

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