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Zetec cams
ricklawn - 28/6/08 at 10:43 AM

morning all
I have a 1.8 zetec blacktop, and have just bought some 2l cams and lifters. i thought the blacktop lifters were hydraulic, as the ones i bought (said to be out of blacktop) seem to be solid with shims on top.
Can i still put the new cams in with my old lifters??
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Thanks
Rick


theconrodkid - 28/6/08 at 10:47 AM

blacktop are solid and no you cant use hydraulic ones,have fun shimming them up


Dusty - 28/6/08 at 10:51 AM

Silvertop - hydraulic, Blacktop - solid/shimmed. If you have recieved solid lifters with the new cams that is right. Your 1.8 should also have solid lifters.


ricklawn - 28/6/08 at 12:20 PM

Hi
Got very confused as i was looking at www.zetec-cat.co.uk for reference, and my engine been a mark one, it says hydraulic lifters.


Mole - 28/6/08 at 02:58 PM

Cant be a mark one if its a black top


ricklawn - 28/6/08 at 03:56 PM

according to zetec- cat ref page my engine is a phase 1??


theconrodkid - 28/6/08 at 04:07 PM

is the sump 1 piece ally or ally with a steel bottom half?,1 piece is silvertop/phase 1+2,got any pics?


Werner Van Loock - 28/6/08 at 05:56 PM

As above, also the silvertop has the waterpump pulley just above the crank pulley while on the blacktop it's offset to exhaust side.

Also it doesn't mean if the rockercover is black that it is a blacktop, could be painted afterwards.


ricklawn - 28/6/08 at 06:01 PM

its got a aliminium cam cover with DOHC on it
Rick


Mole - 28/6/08 at 07:13 PM

Then its a phase one, i.e silvertop. (same as mine). The cams you have bought are for the later phase three (blacktop) engine.

[Edited on 28/6/08 by Mole]


bob - 28/6/08 at 07:26 PM

Yup sounds like phase 1 if DOHC on cam cover, probably the cam cover has had a paint job.

Easy way to decifer is by engine numbers, phase 1 silver top 1800 will have 3 ltters stamped on the block near the crank position sensor as well as engine numbers.

phase 1 1800 should read letter R to denote 1800 then either letter D for 105 cams or letter K for 115 cams or letter Q for 130 cams, 3rd letter is random or denotes power or what car.

Hope this helps



[Edited on 28/6/08 by bob]