Hi all,

Just a reminder that the Autosport show is on this week(end).

If anyone wants to come and say hello, i'll be on stand E97 on Thursday and Friday.

Kind regards,
Darren
GTS Tuning

Darren: "Hmmmm, now lets think...... I don't have any money for a proper advertising budget and the Autosport show is comming up..........AHH!! - I know, if I suggest that something on the Beckwith and Beddows/Townsend built Procomp Locost race cars is in some way iffy on an internet forum, knowing them they are bound to kick up a fuss and I'll get loads of free internet type advertising........Ha ha ha ha!" (evil laugh)

The Audience: "Booooooo"

The Procomp Gang: (in unison) "oh no you don't!"


'Panto' Dave ;-)


Darren: " I suppose possibly looking like a sad g*t was a chance I had to take - but it wasn't for those pesky Procomp kids I'd of gotten away with it..."

[Edited on 14/1/04 by D Beddows]

Ah, it all makes sense now.

Hi Dave,

I'd probably really enjoy your posts on all these forums, if i knew what the hell you were saying!! Your posts are always so cryptic.

I was actually at Autosport on real business nothing to do with Locosts, except for the fact that i happened to notice the illegal Procomp top wishbone!! Its a good job i never got my car finished or have the time to race it, otherwise i'd be at the races moaning about it like everyone else.

For me its really interesting to see how the rules are stretched in locost in such bizarre ways, and yet some of the fundamental issues are not addressed. Again if i was involved or had time i'd probably care about it, but, as it is i just occasionally notice something of interest.

Have a good season (those lucky enough to get out!) and if there is some sort of miracle perhaps i'll finally get out for a race myself this year.

Kind regards,

Darren

well I got bored of being offensive and decided to become cryptic instead - much more fun!!

The thing is though that whenever you appear on a list like this more often than not it is to try and sell us something, which is fair enough and I've never (well not for many years anyway!!!) questioned your technical ability or the quality of the things you sell. BUT digging up an old and long resolved controversy while at the same time suggesting that people come and have a chat with you at the Autosport show when you well know that the people concerned in said controversy aren't afraid of 'speaking their mind' did seem a little toooooo obvious.

I was probably completely wrong again (it happens!!)

Best Wishes

Dave

I look forward to a lawyer's view of Darren's last post, "the illegal Procomp top wishbone". If he had read the replies to his other post on this site about it, he would find that he was looking at a KitCar wishbone and not a Locost wishbone. Totally different regulations, and therefore not illegal.

The photos Doz is referring to clearly show that it has A032Rs or 48Rs, it has "grg" sponsorhsip stickers - it is a 750 KitCar championship car. It even has a CVH engine rather than a XF. Even my grandmother could tell the difference.

Light touchpaper, stand back................

[Edited on 31/1/04 by DickieB]

Hi Dickie,

The car is saw the wishbone on was advertising the 750 MC LOCOST championship at the show, and not the Kit Car championship.

I saw the actual car not a picture so you must be confused over which car i was referring too. I was not referring to any pictures of any car, and therefore you must be mistaken, someone else pointed you all in the direction of an example picture which as you correctly say is a KitCar not a Locost. But this is not the car i was referring too.

Dave,

From what i remember you were such a pussy cat in real life that the offensive posts clearly didn't fit with your personality and i guess this is why you have gone cryptic.

As you well know i work for a living as well, and the offer to come have a chat at Autosport was the chance to put faces to names, not, for people to come and Locost shop as i didn't have my Locost hat on for those two days. If you had bothered to come say hello you'd have known that!

On the subject of regulations, though. Everyone has to admit, that when Procomp got involved they did things that were clearly not to the word/spirit of the regulations. As time has gone on the rule makers have obviously taken on board these changes for various reasons, and so now the regs are written to clarify and allow these changes in.

Whats a bit difficult to accept is that if someone else wanted to make an improvement now, and stretch or break the boundaries of the rules, its hard to think that they would be given the same allowances. This is a little unfair.

Surely the correct way to do these things is to suggest them first, then have the commitee discuss and accept them, rewrite the rules to allow it before any competitor takes to the track with it.

Any how, not following the series really seriously, how comes a Stuart Taylor car wins every year (according to their advertising), when all the bleeting on the various lists is about how you have to get a Procomp chassis to compete? Is it just that the Procomp drivers thus far aren't up to much and as luck would have it there is a Stuart Taylor driver every year with bags of talent?

Kind regards,
Darren

DAVE BEDDOWS IS ACTUALY A NICE GUY! Shock Horror!!!.... That hurts

Yeah right he he he!! ANYWAY! - a lot of you say has some truth to it but the Procomp cars did undergo a serious modification of the chassis before last season due to peoples concerns BUT we still are the only cars that have fuel tanks mounted on the rear bulkhead rather than just behind the rear panel (which lets face it seems to get attacked every other race) AND the harness mounting points are above rather then below the drivers shoulders both great safety features which were suggested by the scruitineers a good few years ago and both impossible to do with the 'book' nonsense. As to the LOCOST Procomp front suspension, that too has long been deemed legal so if anyone wants to copy the design they can, just don't expect any help

Don't be a muppet Darren and try to make this personal again, I thought we had sorted out our differences and moved on - didn't we??

Dave

[Edited on 1/2/04 by D Beddows]

Dave,

I'm not making it personal at all, just playing along with your own big stick style of wind up!

Have a good season...

Best regards,
Darren