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1.6 zetec and type 9 in a ron champion chassis
*davies144* - 25/2/09 at 05:48 PM

hi just wondering if the standard chassis built to the book will be able to acccept a 1.6 zetec se and type 9 gear box? if anyone has used this combination and has some pics would be great to see them, cheers ben


Paul TigerB6 - 25/2/09 at 06:05 PM

Zetec SE - like this one?

Should be a very easy fit - plenty have fitted bigger engines. Nice choice of engine btw

[Edited on 25/2/09 by Paul TigerB6]


*davies144* - 25/2/09 at 06:24 PM

that the one doesnt quite look like yet though!!! so do you think the gearbox will fit without alteration needed to the chassis
?? ben


Paul TigerB6 - 25/2/09 at 06:26 PM

The type 9 isnt very wide at all so cant see it being an issue. I'm sure someone will confirm specifically for the Ron Champion chassis shortly.


The Baron - 25/2/09 at 06:48 PM

I dont think the Type 9 will fit in a standard Book chassis, easily fixed with a angle grinder and re-welded.

B


Gazeddy - 25/2/09 at 06:54 PM

which zetec? escort or focus

escort one will bolt to a t9 but why not go 2litre and rs1800 cams.

focus one will need a new bellhousing as the bolt pattern is different

[Edited on 25/2/09 by Gazeddy]


*davies144* - 25/2/09 at 07:00 PM

it came from a 2000 fiesta zetec s, well i thort id go for a smaller engine because i am only 20 so my insurance will be bad enough with a 1.6!!!


Paul TigerB6 - 25/2/09 at 07:02 PM

Have you already got the chassis then??


*davies144* - 25/2/09 at 07:08 PM

yeh bought the chassis a couple of weeks back


Paul TigerB6 - 25/2/09 at 07:10 PM

might be worth measuring across the transmission tunnel then and popping the numbers up. No doubt someone will have a type 9 who can measure the width behind the bell housing


UncleFista - 25/2/09 at 07:15 PM

I can confirm a type9 fits in a standard Champion "book" chassis quite easily.

It's the Zetec[1] that's a tight fit

[1] Silvertop, not small...


Gazeddy - 25/2/09 at 07:20 PM

its a blacktop. which is smaller but doesnt fit the type 9 box without a new bellhousing


Mix - 25/2/09 at 07:20 PM

Hi

Type nine isn't too big a problem. The engine however is taller and ideally requires the chassis sides to be raised an inch.

Regards Mick


*davies144* - 25/2/09 at 07:24 PM

good stuff about the gearbox, what engine would you go for as a cheap to insure car, 1.6 cvh???


Paul TigerB6 - 25/2/09 at 07:25 PM

The all alloy Zetec SE is a much smaller engine though - more like the Toyota 4-age in size than the taller 1.8 / 2.0 Zetec's. The bellhousing is on Shawspeed's website linked to earlier - just not so sure they are still trading. There is another company doing stuff for the Zetec SE isnt there??

Try a search for info - i know i have seen someone on here with this engine


Paul TigerB6 - 25/2/09 at 07:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by *davies144*
good stuff about the gearbox, what engine would you go for as a cheap to insure car, 1.6 cvh???


You will be looking at a specialist policy and you might well find the engine size doesnt actually make that much difference. Even so, i would rather pay a bit more on insurance for a couple of years and build the car how i want it rather than just to reduce the insurance costs (and it may cost you more in the long run trying to fit a less common engine)

Try a search for insurance for under 25's on here and maybe ask what premiums the under 25's are paying - i'm sure most will happily tell you


Gazeddy - 25/2/09 at 07:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by *davies144*
good stuff about the gearbox, what engine would you go for as a cheap to insure car, 1.6 cvh???


try 1.4 cvh then you can change to the much nicer and tougher zetec e eventually
my personal opinion. although im think of building a chassis to take a 3.2 5 cyl tdci transit engine.


Daddylonglegs - 26/2/09 at 01:21 PM

Not sure if this'll help?

Type 9

JB


*davies144* - 26/2/09 at 06:44 PM

cheers thanks for the help


David Jenkins - 26/2/09 at 08:13 PM

I have a type 9 box in my standard chassis - it's positioned to that the back face of the bellhousing is about 1cm away from the chassis uprights.

There's a fair bit of room all around in the tunnel.