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smart51 - 20/5/08 at 10:31 AM

My chassis paint is peeling. I degreased the chassis with marine clean, treated with metal ready then painted with POR-15. It was nice. In several places the paint has bubbled and when pushed it is obvously not connected to the metal. I'll have to strip it back and repaint.

Should I use the remaining small tin of POR-15 or should I try something else?

recomendations please.


Davey D - 20/5/08 at 10:41 AM

Is your car definately painted, and not powder coated?


chrsgrain - 20/5/08 at 10:44 AM

Hmm, that's good to know as I thought that POR15 was the dogs danglies.... might be worth contacting them for advice...

Chris


Mr Whippy - 20/5/08 at 10:47 AM

Ah see that’s what happens when you do things properly and then the paint all falls off

now had it been accidentally over sprayed , a nuke wouldn't budge it


Howlor - 20/5/08 at 10:58 AM

Overspray is the best way to paint anything. It get everywhere, always sticks even with no preperation and never seems to run!

My chassis also peeled a little but I found that just a cellulose painted straight on to the metal seemed to adhere much better.

Steve


iank - 20/5/08 at 10:59 AM

I've used POR-15, marine clean and metal ready on my chassis.

The only problems with bubbling I've seen have been when painting over old paint (donor parts) where I've sometimes seen a really obvious reaction at the time of painting.

One thing in the instruction small print is a claim that a single drop of sweat will spoil the adhesion of the paint - not sure if that could have happened to you. Personally I'd have a chat with Frosts (assume you got it there) and see what they say.


wilkingj - 20/5/08 at 11:56 AM

Tractor Chassis Black Paint from your local Agricultural Merchant.

Its black, and suitable for painting with a Yard Broom in the hands of a Farmer.

Its also Pig Piss proof.

Worked well for me on my LandRover.

Cant remember the name of it. got if off someone on a Landy Forum.


Mr Whippy - 20/5/08 at 12:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by iank

One thing in the instruction small print is a claim that a single drop of sweat will spoil the adhesion of the paint - not sure if that could have happened to you.


I now wear latex gloves when handling any parts for painting, learnt the hard way.


iank - 20/5/08 at 12:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
quote:
Originally posted by iank

One thing in the instruction small print is a claim that a single drop of sweat will spoil the adhesion of the paint - not sure if that could have happened to you.


I now wear latex gloves when handling any parts for painting, learnt the hard way.


I always use gloves (prefer vinyl myself) when painting POR-15. Learn't the hard way that it takes 3 days to come off skin.


Bluemoon - 20/5/08 at 12:36 PM

I used an etch primer (UPOL acid #8) realy good, just d-greased first, i.e. detergent, rinse/towel dry to stop flash rust. Then cellulose thinners wipe one with one rage then clean wipe off with a clean on.. then etch primer.. The primer has stuck well, and when I have managed to chip it (droping spaners/drill etc) most chips don't get though the primer... the surface is matt underneath, i.e. the chassis is etched to provide a good primer key.

Like all painting preparation is key, i expect there was a surface film on the metal if you have adhesion problems?

The only snag is the acid #8 might react with you existing paint if you want to touch up what is existing.

Cheers

Dan

[Edited on 20/5/08 by Bluemoon]


blakep82 - 20/5/08 at 01:04 PM

i didn't read all the replies, so may be covering old ground... I've never heard of metal ready (may have got the name wrong and i don't know what it is ) but what primer did you use? was it etch primer?


smart51 - 20/5/08 at 01:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
I've never heard of metal ready (may have got the name wrong and i don't know what it is ) but what primer did you use? was it etch primer?


metal ready is a solution that treats rust and coats the metal in zinc phosphate. You paint POR-15 straight onto that.

I've painted small parts with it after soaking in degreaser and wiping and the POR peels off in nice sheets.


iank - 20/5/08 at 02:12 PM

POR-15 is a primer, and changes colour in UV.


smart51 - 20/5/08 at 02:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by iank
POR-15 is a primer, and changes colour in UV.


Non of my chassis will be exposed to sunlight (unless I roll it). You don't have to overcoat it unless you are worried about the colour change.


wicket - 20/5/08 at 03:18 PM

I degreased the engine and gearbox and then treated with metal ready before painting with POR-15.

It's nearly 6 years ago now and it still looks OK, no obvious signs of it coming off anywhere.