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evo3500 - 9/12/06 at 08:00 PM

Have just been reading January edition of kitcar magazine have you seen this.
sdrsportscars

Im saving up my pennys now !


flak monkey - 9/12/06 at 08:02 PM

I hate websites with sound

Looks quite cool though. Very much like the Atom

David

PS not sure what this has to do with MK, but fair enough


smart51 - 9/12/06 at 08:15 PM

It's a shameless Aerial Atom rip off. I like the atom. I spend quite some time just looking at them when I see them. It's so individual, you just can't copy it. You can't.


BenB - 9/12/06 at 08:16 PM

It's a kit car Ariel atom!! Oh well, you know what they say about the sincerest form of flattery and all that....


Peteff - 9/12/06 at 08:49 PM

3 seater bike power? It will need a good engine, something like a C90 as they carry whole families and their livestock.


snapper - 9/12/06 at 09:02 PM

quote:

It's a shameless Aerial Atom rip off. I like the atom. I spend quite some time just looking at them when I see them. It's so individual, you just can't copy it. You can't.



Whilst i understand these sentiments, how many people on this forum are building a "Lotus Seven Inspired Sports car?????


smart51 - 9/12/06 at 10:28 PM

quote:
Originally posted by snapper
quote:

It's a shameless Aerial Atom rip off. I like the atom. I spend quite some time just looking at them when I see them. It's so individual, you just can't copy it. You can't.



Whilst i understand these sentiments, how many people on this forum are building a "Lotus Seven Inspired Sports car?????


The difference is that the seven, like the AC cobra and the Porsche 356 are very old, rare and expensive. Chances are you can't own an original, even if you could find one. The atom is still in production. Don't tell me about Caterham, it is a replica itself.


nitram38 - 9/12/06 at 10:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by smart51
quote:
Originally posted by snapper
quote:

It's a shameless Aerial Atom rip off. I like the atom. I spend quite some time just looking at them when I see them. It's so individual, you just can't copy it. You can't.



Whilst i understand these sentiments, how many people on this forum are building a "Lotus Seven Inspired Sports car?????


The difference is that the seven, like the AC cobra and the Porsche 356 are very old, rare and expensive. Chances are you can't own an original, even if you could find one. The atom is still in production. Don't tell me about Caterham, it is a replica itself.


And the atom is Cheap????
At 25K I don't think !


MikeR - 10/12/06 at 12:14 PM

roll bar isn't high enough.


PAUL FISHER - 10/12/06 at 01:46 PM

Looks well designed,must be pretty unique with it being a 3 seater,I cant think off hand any other 3 seaters on the market at the moment,the aprillia engine is a cracking little engine,ready dry sumped as standard,but with only 143bhp,although bags of torque,there claim of 0-100mph in 9.1 sec's is a bit ambitious,for a 500kg car with that kind of bhp per ton,and three up,it would realy take the edge off the performance.


nitram38 - 10/12/06 at 02:26 PM

Aeon has 3 seats CLICK


PAUL FISHER - 10/12/06 at 09:05 PM

Yes,remember seeing one of those now at a show,looks a bit cramped,for the passengers anyway,also,was thinking about the concept this afternoon,although not a kit car,the mclaren f1,was a three seater. Rescued attachment mc1.jpg
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zxrlocost - 10/12/06 at 09:16 PM

that really makes me want to leave a deposit wheres the finished pics

also I agree about performance

3 people with a BEC would stress the engine big time with no performance

seems to me to much computer work and equations and not enough real time driving


damien - 12/12/06 at 07:22 AM

got a email back from them -

Hello Damien,
Thankyou for your recent enquiry ,and registering for the newsletter
In answer to your questions most of the information can be found on the website ,this will be updated frequently ,as and when we have new information,and I will be adding a frequently asked questions page in the future.
You can also follow a full month by month report on the build and progress in Kitcar Magazine which is out now,also there will be a news piece on www.totalkitcar.com on Fridays news page.

In direct response to your immediate questions,the 1st newsletter will be out end of January beginning of february,as for price all I can say at this time is that it will be very ,very ,competitive ,and I am expecting kits starting at under £3k ,
with that said I dont expect my car to cost anymore to build than a well finished 7 replica,I built an Mk Indy IRS with a bike engine a few years ago and it cost around £7k.
I would anticipate a shrewd builder could build my car for about the same.
As for car engines these are coming on line later in the year the engine,the one we are using is a bit of a secret at the moment.
The reason for the bike engine now is it offers lots of power for very little money,and offers a seqential style gearbox,and supercar performance,and makes for an easy build,but you can upgrade to a car engine later quite easily.
If you had crossflow or pinto engine ,to build it to get a genuine 140-150 or so horsepower from it you wouldnt get much change from say £1500 £2000 ,whereas you can get everthing you need for an Aprilia engine to run including engine for about £650 to £1000 pound and its got about 150bhp also a bike engined cars in my opinion are somewhat simpler to build as ther is less parts in total therefore maker it easier to work with.

I hope I have been able to answer your questions for you,if you would like any further info or advice please feel free to call for a friendly informal chat,or email.

Thanks for looking at my site www.sdrsportscars.co.uk


Simon Dickens


Managing Director


adampage - 12/12/06 at 09:18 AM

Isn't evo3500 otherwise known as Simon Dickens, the MD of the new kit car manufacturer, and the person who 'noticed' the article in the Kitcar magazine?

Simon, go ahead and promote your product mate, it looks good and we're all up for new choices on which to spend our money, but it might look more sincere if you come out as the manufacturer rather than pretend you are an independent reader who's "saving his pennies".

Just my thoughts....
Adam.


adampage - 12/12/06 at 10:53 AM

... when have people on here ever held back what they truly thought!?

I wish him the best of luck, i like the idea of the aprilia v-twin, but i can just imagine the chat on the atom owners forum. Oooh, they'll be livid!

Adam.


evo3500 - 12/12/06 at 11:42 AM

Well Adam how are you doing,I did finish the Gt1 ,have you still got your car ?well as the saying goes I guess you let the cat out of the bag,the secret is out,but as Chris said, I wanted to get any unbiased opinions wether good or bad,and I know you boys certainly say what you think, Im sure you will all let me know that now.
In hynsight I guess I should have waited ,but after it going in the magazine I couldnt hold back to get some feedback,I guess I was feeling like an excited schoolboy who had just got a new toy.
I didnt mean to mislead ,and perhaps I have been a bit foolish,and made a bit of a mistake, should have thought about it a bit more not the best way to get opinions,but if we all had the gift of hynsight we would all be very clever.
Well I apologise to anybody ,who I may have upset,but many thanks to you all for your comments and feedback,and all the help the people on this forum have given me.

Simon


macnab - 12/12/06 at 12:16 PM

You should put a comments thing on your cars website to get feed back on the design, I'm sure most of it will be of great help. I quite like the design though your feet look a bit vulnerable.


adampage - 12/12/06 at 12:44 PM

Simon,

Glad to see this hobby's turned into a business! I wish you all the best.

I bought a fully built Stuart Taylor for a while, then moved to Sydney for 6 months, and am now back, hence my lurking in the background, saving up and thinking about buying something else.

I think your new car looks great, sorry if i ruined your plan, but i just thought some people have been criticised in the past for not being 100% open, i thought it might make sense to spread the news.

I'm sure you'll get plenty of support from Locostbuilders people anyway!

Like your website too, i'll be keeping up to date with it!

Adam.


evo3500 - 12/12/06 at 02:44 PM

Thanks for your support Adam,good to see you are keeping well,will keep you posted.

thanks Simon


ZEN - 16/12/06 at 06:12 PM

This one is from China!



TheRacingSnake - 9/4/07 at 09:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by evo3500
Well Adam how are you doing,I did finish the Gt1 ,have you still got your car ?well as the saying goes I guess you let the cat out of the bag,the secret is out,but as Chris said, I wanted to get any unbiased opinions wether good or bad,and I know you boys certainly say what you think, Im sure you will all let me know that now.
In hynsight I guess I should have waited ,but after it going in the magazine I couldnt hold back to get some feedback,I guess I was feeling like an excited schoolboy who had just got a new toy.
I didnt mean to mislead ,and perhaps I have been a bit foolish,and made a bit of a mistake, should have thought about it a bit more not the best way to get opinions,but if we all had the gift of hynsight we would all be very clever.
Well I apologise to anybody ,who I may have upset,but many thanks to you all for your comments and feedback,and all the help the people on this forum have given me.

Simon


I have been thinking of building a kit car for some while and felt that I had to reply to this post - Why would a truly genuine manufacturer deliberately try to fool the general pubic of their identity?
I love the styling of the Atom, but simply cannot afford or justify the cost. The V-Storm could have been a solution to enable me to fulfil my dream of building a fast exposed frame Atom style two seater.
I would suggest that people think twice about giving their hard earned cash to someone who (by their own admission) is misleading even before the product is launched.
The MEV Rocket seems to tick all of the right boxes (and doesn't use a bike engine with the associated clutch problems) and after talking to them last week, will be giving my hard earned at Stoneleigh to a manufacturer that is more open and honest and is not trying to hide behind "market research".

Snake


zxrlocost - 9/4/07 at 09:29 PM

bike engines clutch problems ?


JoelP - 9/4/07 at 09:44 PM

Off yer high horse mate, that reads like an inside advert for MEV, at least evo3500 was convincing...

quote:
Originally posted by TheRacingSnake
quote:
Originally posted by evo3500
Well Adam how are you doing,I did finish the Gt1 ,have you still got your car ?well as the saying goes I guess you let the cat out of the bag,the secret is out,but as Chris said, I wanted to get any unbiased opinions wether good or bad,and I know you boys certainly say what you think, Im sure you will all let me know that now.
In hynsight I guess I should have waited ,but after it going in the magazine I couldnt hold back to get some feedback,I guess I was feeling like an excited schoolboy who had just got a new toy.
I didnt mean to mislead ,and perhaps I have been a bit foolish,and made a bit of a mistake, should have thought about it a bit more not the best way to get opinions,but if we all had the gift of hynsight we would all be very clever.
Well I apologise to anybody ,who I may have upset,but many thanks to you all for your comments and feedback,and all the help the people on this forum have given me.

Simon


I have been thinking of building a kit car for some while and felt that I had to reply to this post - Why would a truly genuine manufacturer deliberately try to fool the general pubic of their identity?
I love the styling of the Atom, but simply cannot afford or justify the cost. The V-Storm could have been a solution to enable me to fulfil my dream of building a fast exposed frame Atom style two seater.
I would suggest that people think twice about giving their hard earned cash to someone who (by their own admission) is misleading even before the product is launched.
The MEV Rocket seems to tick all of the right boxes (and doesn't use a bike engine with the associated clutch problems) and after talking to them last week, will be giving my hard earned at Stoneleigh to a manufacturer that is more open and honest and is not trying to hide behind "market research".

Snake


zxrlocost - 9/4/07 at 10:01 PM

exactly what I was thinking


TheRacingSnake - 9/4/07 at 10:07 PM

Merely stating the fact that a 500Kg car with three people on board (another 300kg) using a clutch designed to move about 400Kg is not conducive to a long life. I want to spend time driving not changing clutches.
Also, I have nothing to do with MEV - they just seemed to be genuine enthusiasts with a passion for moving the industry forward.

Snake

[Edited on 10/4/07 by TheRacingSnake]


StevieB - 13/4/07 at 08:45 AM

You're acting as if just about every company, new and old, doesn't disguise it's identity to do a bit of market research.

The car looks great so far and I'd wish Simon success with it.


Agriv8 - 13/4/07 at 09:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by adampage
... when have people on here ever held back what they truly thought!?

I wish him the best of luck, i like the idea of the aprilia v-twin, but i can just imagine the chat on the atom owners forum. Oooh, they'll be livid!

Adam.


first Line PMSL top marks


RobertAdams - 5/6/08 at 12:06 PM

Well, I've bought one, and no I'm not related to Simon or anyone else on this thread! So far I've built up the suspension, fitted the drive train and engine and am now going through the pain barrier of making the wiring loom, oh what fun! Everything has fitted together, the quality of the engineering is very high, and I'm more than happy to recommend the V Storm from first hand experience. I too looked at the Mev Rocket, but I perfered the quality feel of the V Storm and like the idea of a 130 bhp engine and sequential gearbox weighing in at 65kg. I do agree that with any lightweight car, 3 fat b*stards on board will severely affect the power to weight ratio, but when the seats are empty.....
My build diary is at

http://www.classicbikehire.com/VStormHome.html