can anyone tell me about them?

i think it all went on before my time in the kit car world, but why do they look like the same car, i can only assume one if a copy of the other.... i might regret asking this question i think.

i suppose if it gets out of hand i'll delete the post

So my new question will be, do they share the same irs back end?

[Edited on 7/7/07 by graememk]

LOL!! Im going to get some popcorn for this one

while you're getting the popcorn do you want me to get some drinks in?

yup, you might regret that.

They are spelt different

Go for the Mac 1 the guys at Newark were fantastic with their Craik. Not the same passion and enthusiasm from the Mk stand IMVHO.

Allegedly MAC 1 made some of the Indy chassis for MK. They then started building there own cars which are fairly similar... All allegedly of course.

Cheers

so that would make it a mac1mk

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Allegedly MAC 1 made some of the Indy chassis for MK. They then started building there own cars which are fairly similar... All allegedly of course.

Cheers

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Oh my God im off out for a ride... for a couple of days!!!

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Oh my God im off out for a ride... for a couple of days!!!

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Tell us which route your taking so we can arrange a tow truck to recover you out of the nearest ditch............ or if your not pushing that much again tell us the route so we can avoid the tail back

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It's just like deja vu, all over again!

i think were safe from the popcorn guys this time, i pretty much goes like this Mark builds a locost on his patio and someone buys it from him ,start building MK's for customers with Colin as Mac#1 motorsport. they have ideas to" improve", alter the cars they were building so decide to do there own version of a sierra based kitcar initially with outside help then built in house "except grp".
whilst outwardly similar looking there are lots of differences both outwardly and under the skin.
the Mac1 chassis has undergone 3 or 4 redesigns to my knowledge in the last 3 years or so.Bulkheads etc have been altered and engines moved backwards so things like gearlevers fit without modification or dash clearence problems and weight is more centralised in the car.
the side panels of a Mac1 have the same curved shape as the rear panel to give an improved fit and look to the joint of both panels.
ultimatly the cars do look similar to each other as do most sevens regardless of manufacturer but if you look closely there are lots of differences just not always easy to spot.
I personally could easily have been MK owner haveing visited them before my first build.but at that time the business had just changed hands from martin and all did'nt really seem settled at MK at that time so the enthusiasm of Mac#1 and the offer of a passenger ride on a track day won the day and have been very happy with the cars, people since. though had i visited MK at a different time things may have been different.

Rich

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Mac1 used to buy thier chassis from Martin Keenan. They then built these up to order . One day in the dim and distant past there was a fall out and after that mac 1 made their own arrangments on the chassis front.

ok i've always wondered.

So my new question will be, do they share the same irs back end?

yeah both normally use the sierra

sorry could'nt resist that

have a look in my archive at the picture called rear end OOH er

this is from my last build and is a normal rear end

2 of those bolts aren't showing many threads beyond the locknuts.

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2 of those bolts aren't showing many threads beyond the locknuts.

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if its beyond the locking device then is through far enough
any farer and the bolts too long and heavy

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of course the mac 1 and the indy have the same back end the mac 1 chassis was jiged up from an mk chassis originaly as also was this one HERE

ok spot the clone




and indy rear or not ?




how about this



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so does the mac1 have the same problems as the indy then ?

if there is a problem at all ?

Hi charlie
which was the one who built a copy and then fitted the top wishbones upside down then claimed it improved handling, i think at one stage there were about 6 copies at the various shows.
Tony

that would have been SPD tony and we all know what happend to them

so does the mac1 have the same problems as the indy then ?

OF COURSE IT DOES !!
the indy was the first kit to use irs and sierra doner parts
EVERYONE COPPIED IT

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Snoopy is it 2 MK's NOT an MK rear end and a USof A copy/clone of the indy

As to the handling issue it probably is there but its not as much of an issue as people would have you believe it is.

I think it may only be an issue if your looking for the last few tenths round a track etc. IMHO for what its worth

Snoopy is it 2 MK's NOT an MK rear end and a USof A copy/clone of the indy

CLOSE 2 OUT OF THREE

As to the handling issue it probably is there but its not as much of an issue as people would have you believe it is.

100% CORRECT ITS INSIGNIFICANT AND WILLNEVER BE EVEN NOTICED BY 99 % OF DRIVERS

can I have a go then snoopy?
An mk on the left, copy on the right?
Not an mk rear end and
an american clone?

john.

orange one is indead a copy
not an mk rear end and yes american mk copy well done

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orange one is indead a copy
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