Hi all, newbie here, and full of lots of craZy ideas. Wondering if anybody has looked into/actually used an FJR1300AE motor in a car before. The electric shift/clutch is a new feature, so I kinda doubt it, but the F1-style shifting and electrically operated clutch just seemed to be a really awesome thing to have in a locost car.

Also does anyone know if the ABS is integrated into the ECU/YCCS on this bike, or is it a separate unit that can be removed easily without affecting engine/shifting performance?

Good idea for sure , the FJR engine is a good one, and the new shifter control is interesting.
On the downside it might be difficult to get hold of one and would probably cost a fortune even if you could

You could always fit a normal bike engine with an electronic shifter though

Cheers


Alex


http://www.kliktronic.co.uk/

[Edited on 10/10/06 by ecosse]

Welcome to the madhouse! Its always good to hear of folks brave enough to do something different unlike me!

though i do have a kliktronic shifter installed on mine so its a tiny wee bit out the ordinary

[Edited on 10/10/06 by scotlad]

I did something different!

Welcome, nice to hear different ideas, inclined to agree with above that could be pricey, sorry can't help on the other questions re abs etc. As has already been said going with a cheaper engine & an electric shift kit would be a cheaper & simpler option. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

Thanks for you thoughts guys!
I think the most unique thing about the AE that I like is the electronic clutch... Nothing out there can replace that AFAIK.

For those of you out there with FJR cars, has anyone had any oiling issues when mounted in a transverse configuration?

Also, Kawi just posted the new Concourss 14 on their website. Looks like its based on the ZX14 motor, but has Variable valve timing! This would make a torquey monster for a car I'd bet!

http://kawasaki.com/Products/Detail.aspx?id=220

also i have electronic gear changes!

mounted on my momo steering wheel using the sierra claxon strips in the wheel!!

Regards,

Tks

The engine is shaft drive so does the output not spin the wrong way?

Cheers
David

thats a that good point!!

if the shaft is on the same side of the bike where the chain normally is, then it is at the wrong side!

Tks

MK have done a shaft drive before, based on an earlier FJ I think.

Have a look here :- http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=22852

[img]http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?action=attachment&tid=22852&pid=184583[/img]

Was a left hand drive too, which meant that the shaft output and steering column didn't clash.

Hope that helps.

Mike

Hey all,
I've driven the latest FJR1300 with the electric shifter box init last week, and i'm so impressed with what yamaha did this time. you absolulty cannot shift quicker with a manualy apllied clutch than what this box does. click you fingers .... that's it really
and all without taking you hand/foot of the gas.

it's really amazing, the dealer had a cut open (dislplay like) engineblock in the showroom with the gearbox visible and it's just plain Cima/Ricardo technology which is in there.

I think it would be quicker than the busa, the torque form the engine is availeble much earlier I've been told, did not see a graph, so not 100% sure on this one. there seems to be some more planning with this engine fropm yamaha because the engine has done 200+ hp on the dyno at yamaha test center (also been told by dealer) so I think they've got something up thery sleeve again to target kawa and susuki again..... lets just wait and see.

holeshot probably has a turbo system availeble if you ask them. which would be completly bonkers as with the busa

a company over here in holland has allready got a Mk indy (believe it's the Luc Hasselier company BTW) on the road with the cardan drive FJR 1300 engine, it looks kind of odd btw way, a rwd car with the engine facing east west in the enginebay.
but that way no drysump was needed. they have a scorpio diff in the rear.

grtz Thomas

So far the car I have in mind would be mid-engine, transverse config.

There has been much banter about drivetrains on FJR's, and if maintenance wasn't a factor, I'd probably figure out a way to remove the 90deg. drive on the output and put a chain sprocket on there. Hear a lot of R1 stuff works.

Option two is just run the output straight into an IRS diff with the engine offset right a bit, which is OK since it will be yank LHD. Requires a bass-ackwards spinning diff though. From what I've seen these arent the easiest to find.

Dan

I am building a FJR1300 engined locost here in the US. Some pictures are at:
FJR build

Seems like a great engine for a LHD build. Had to flip my rear axle though, because of the output spinning the wrong way.
Funnily enough, removing the bevel gear and mounting it like an R1 would still have it turning the wrong way. I'm not sure but I think the whole motor spins backwards to normal...

I'd love to see the info that says that Yamaha got 200bhp from that engine....

Does anyone hve anymore information on how the scorpio dif was chosen and how it was used?