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Flat engine?
Johan F - 18/5/03 at 10:15 PM

Why isn't there anyone that uses a flat "boxer" engine? Ex. Subaru and perhaps Porsche?
In my opinion it would be perfect, low centre of gravity and very thin.


stephen_gusterson - 18/5/03 at 10:41 PM

cos a locost is a front engined car with an engine bay that gets narrower towards the bottom - if anythign you need a V engine to maximise space useage.

atb

steve


MikeRJ - 19/5/03 at 07:39 AM

I had the very same thought recently. I was thinking of the Alfa boxer engine from the Sud Ti. Lovely sounding engine with reasonable power. Mating it to a suitable gearbox would be a PITA I expect.


MK9R - 19/5/03 at 10:29 AM

Because all scooby engines have had the arse thrashed out of them

Posted by a WRX owner

[Edited on 19/5/03 by MK9R]


timf - 19/5/03 at 11:01 AM

the scooby engine is also very wide, and yes they are thrashed, as i found out when mine spun a main bearing after 1000 miles but it was under warranty
so new engine from scooby

also there are very few ways of converting to 2wd


kiwirex - 19/5/03 at 08:06 PM

Lots of folk use them for for mid-engine cars.

Admittedly, it's because the box is a transaxle (need a 2wd box though), more than the engine, I think.

Being a transaxle means the engine is still longitudinal (or however it's spelt) and so the weight is a bit more forward (hence in the middle) than the standard fwd engine.


Apparently gives very good balance.

Getting harder to find the 2wd box these days though

- Greg H


UncleFista - 20/5/03 at 12:10 AM

I've always wondered why this engine hasn't been used more;

Specs

Engine Type:
1832cc liquid-cooled horizontally opposed six-cylinder

Valve Train:
SOHC, two valves per cylinder

Carburetion:
Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI) with automatic choke

Ignition:
Computer-controlled digital with three-dimensional mapping

Transmission:
Five-speed including overdrive, plus electric reverse

Final Drive:
Shaft

Thats the engine and trans from a 2002 Honda Goldwing
I know their owners don't go fast enough to crash very often, but even a mild-ish spill could get into "write off" territory once the GRP has been smashed ?

There's also tuning bits available as it shares an engine with the "Valkyrie" (no GRP).
Reading the specs it could be designed for a light 'kit' type vehicle, I know there must be a reason for not using it, I don't think I've seen anyone at all using it...

If anyone has a link to any sites showing the Goldwing engine in a car I'd be much obliged

PS. I'll post the body of this text to the BEC group too


ned - 20/5/03 at 08:51 AM

While we're on the subject of flat engines, surely they'd be good (especially a porsche one if you could get it cheap!) for mid engined people? low centre of gravity, good sound, performance etc etc.

Ned.


stephen_gusterson - 20/5/03 at 09:04 AM

I would suggest that its cos the power is a bit on the low side for a bike engine - isnt it summat like 120 hp? People thinking bike tend to go for lighter bike engined screamers, but I agree - sounds like a good idea.

atb
steve