Hi

A friend of mines son is watching a mini on ebay.
1962 AUSTIN MINI 1000 CITY E RED on eBay (end time 06-Jan-11 19:04:54 GMT)

Obviously shape and reg don't relate to 1962 mini
but putting the reg no in DVLA

The vehicle details for E508 UOK are:

Date of Liability 01 12 2010
Date of First Registration 17 03 1988
Year of Manufacture 1962
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 998CC
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Unlicensed
Vehicle Colour RED
Vehicle Type Approval


How do we end up with year of manufacture 1962, but a reg date of 1988
My insticts are to stay well clear
any advice please


cheers Andy

I don't know how they have managed this, I understood that you couldn't legaly have a plate which portrays the vehicle as being newer than it actually is.

He says he has all the paperwork, it may be worth arranging to view it and analyse the docs before bidding.

It could be a load of mechanical, electrical, and legal hassle though....

Im thinking he has put an older private plate on it & thinks that entitles him to tax exempt, no chance !!

That would be a good loophole if we could all do that.

In the questions section of his ad, he says its a 1988 registered car and your check confirms this so i reckon its ok, if you win it, just treble check engine & chassis numbers, i cant see it being a problem.

Whoops, just read your topic in more detail, registered 1988, manufactured 1962 ???? its definately not a 1962 shell as im sure you know from those pictures, it may have been imported to this country in 1988 and reshelled with a new shell but im pretty sure if you import, they still give you a plate from the year of manufacture.

I would be interested to know whats happened ? very strange..

looks big ben ---- major ringer clearly a Mini Mk2 E registration could be right for the shell. Cherished number bit dosen't make any sense.

Some cars can have a Reg. plate that is newer than the car.
I had one.
It was a 1975 Range Rover on A xxx000 'Y' Reg.
I think the rules were updated from 'A'xxx000.
The V5 once had a ROUxxxx number marked as prevoius number. Which made me think it was imported from Ireland.

Although this does not mean other "iffy" Registered cars will be OK.

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Originally posted by Andybarbet
Whoops, just read your topic in more detail, registered 1988, manufactured 1962 ???? its definately not a 1962 shell as im sure you know from those pictures, it may have been imported to this country in 1988 and reshelled with a new shell but im pretty sure if you import, they still give you a plate from the year of manufacture.

I would be interested to know whats happened ? very strange..

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Originally posted by rf900rush
Some cars can have a Reg. plate that is newer than the car.
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My first car was like that
It had an 'X' reg on it 1982 at the time, but I think the car was a 1979 but had been imported.
Can't quite remember the details as it was long time ago.

Andy

The buyer bought a Mini 1275 with historic tax in September http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eB ayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=hayley_superdooper&ftab=FeedbackAsBuyer I wonder if its the same one.

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Originally posted by rf900rush
Some cars can have a Reg. plate that is newer than the car.
I had one.
It was a 1975 Range Rover on A xxx000 'Y' Reg.
I think the rules were updated from 'A'xxx000.
The V5 once had a ROUxxxx number marked as prevoius number. Which made me think it was imported from Ireland.

Although this does not mean other "iffy" Registered cars will be OK.

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Upto 1983, Y reg, any car that was re-registered or imported got the current reg regardless of age you then had to re-apply for an age related plate. This Mini is not what it seems, I think we all know that, there are however a surprising number of people that still believe a 25 year old car is tax exempt, maybe this is the case? I doubt it, it's a ringer.

there is a suble difference between a car eligible for tax exemption and one that is tax exempt.

if you go to the post office with a V5c saying 1962 you will still pay tax.

1962 is eligible but needs the V5c changing from PLG to HISTORIC,

then its exempt from tax and the Tax disc says £ NIL.

getting the DVLA to change a 1988 log book to historic is impossible.

what appears to be going on is:


pooly worded advert for a 1988 mini for sale with a set of tax exempt plates?

IC

Yes, the V5 will have to state Historic, ask the seller if this is the case.

Still a case of buyer beware me thinks, as it clearly ain't a 1962 Mini!

Scott

My idea, may or mabe not correct....
this or a previous owner ringed the car (ie a 1988 or thereabouts) mini and registered it as a 1962. possibly to transfer off a tasty plate from a V5 but didn't have the car....

Hang on, doesn't work as the car would have been issued with an age related plate, which would have been better as it would be tricker to fathom out than this which smells bad. Of course the obvious answer is that it was a 1962 car that the dealer had on the forecourt for 26 years I really do not understand this one, unless it is a ringer as above, and DVLA enployed a temp numpty

IIRC imports etc were given new registaration numbers up to 1981 W reg. After that the reg reflects the build date. Owners clubs are usually the ones to confirm build dates when you register such a car 9have done that twice with Triumphs over the years)

My campervan V5c says

date of first registration 1985
Date of manufacture 1978

thats because it is an import and was given a age related plate (1978 ) when imported in 1985.

the 2 dates can be different which is fine.


problem with this car is the 1988 reg on it. 998 engines were not invented in 1962 ----997!
and stating CITY E makes me think thats what it actually is.

One possible answer is:

car restorer gets old 1962 mini without V5
renews everything part by part ie a nut and bolt rebuild car.
goes to dvla to get a log book and register it in 1988.
DVLA say, nothing is original but all the parts look new we will give you a 1988 plate.?

whatever happens, its worth something as it stands, looks to be a tidy mini.

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Originally posted by ianclark1275
My campervan V5c says

date of first registration 1985
Date of manufacture 1978

thats because it is an import and was given a age related plate (1978 ) when imported in 1985.

the 2 dates can be different which is fine.


problem with this car is the 1988 reg on it. 998 engines were not invented in 1962 ----997!
and stating CITY E makes me think thats what it actually is.

One possible answer is:

car restorer gets old 1962 mini without V5
renews everything part by part ie a nut and bolt rebuild car.
goes to dvla to get a log book and register it in 1988.
DVLA say, nothing is original but all the parts look new we will give you a 1988 plate.?

whatever happens, its worth something as it stands, looks to be a tidy mini.

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