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New european MOT regs vs current IVA
NS Dev - 10/9/12 at 08:45 PM

Short answers please, I don't have time to read everything published by ACE et al and am obviously worried by all the rumours of problems keeping modified cars on the road (given the nature of my business!! )

Nothing I have read can clarify whether our existing IVA test will continue.

If it will, I don't have any worries.

If it won't, then its the end of the uk kit car industry as we know it, and its also a major problem for me as well!!!

I've read all the scaremongering on other forums, but as I say, if IVA stays, then I have no issue with putting my modified classics through it. If there is no system for individual approval at a sensible cost then its a big problem!


Slimy38 - 10/9/12 at 09:09 PM

OK, I'll keep it short...

I thought all the rumours were that you couldn't modify a car without it going for type approval, not that it couldn't be modified at all. If we're doing approval anyway, then aren't we already following the new rules?

[Edited on 10/9/12 by Slimy38]


blakep82 - 10/9/12 at 09:16 PM

there was supposedly a new one last week, that any car which wasn't in factory form going for an mot would fail.
but this was just an idea, and they were in talks with various motoring groups, and far from a draft legislation, never mind legistlation. can't remember where i read it. I suspect it would only really apply to cars built after a certain date.
i think it was the AA saying it would kill off so many businesses involved in aftermarket parts that it would have a dire effect on the whole country


for anyone wanting some background reading, here's a link to the latest one (similar to the other one going about a few weeks back, but different) it was a different site i saw it on though, but here's the meat. look at the last few paragraphs though
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2199311/Millions-modified-classic-cars-banned-roads-meddling-European-Union-try-shake-MOT-rules.html?ito=feeds -newsxml

[Edited on 10/9/12 by blakep82]


deltron63 - 10/9/12 at 09:46 PM

Isn't going to happen now. ( short enough )


NS Dev - 10/9/12 at 09:54 PM

cheers, yep short enough!!

I knew all the stuff about mot fail for non standard parts, and all that jazz, but for an IVA'd (and thus new) car that's pretty irrelevant.

My worry was that we'd lose the possibility of individual vehicle approval, which is a major issue!


russbost - 10/9/12 at 11:11 PM

I think there are sufficient grey areas amongst all this legislation that it's important we all get behind any moves to block it & register our dissent with local MP's etc. I've already emailed my local MP, but no reply as yet.

Does anyone know if there has been one of those "petition to parliament" type thingies been done on this as I've not seen one

If anyone knows anything more please post a link.


twybrow - 10/9/12 at 11:59 PM

Here you go...!


Slimy38 - 11/9/12 at 07:15 AM

quote:
Originally posted by NS DevMy worry was that we'd lose the possibility of individual vehicle approval, which is a major issue!


Yes, but it's a major issue for so many more people than just us. Here is the direct.gov website view on who uses IVA;

quote:

You can use the IVA scheme if you:

build, design or sell kit cars
import cars from outside the European Union - particularly the Far East and North America
rebuild older cars with major changes
specialise in converting new vehicles into wheelchair accessible vehicles
manufacture a small number of vehicles
manufacture or import trailers
manufacture or import passenger vehicles
manufacture or import goods vehicles



I think item 4 is a big enough subject on its own to warrant IVA.


britishtrident - 11/9/12 at 09:37 AM

In any event the way things are going the EU might not exist next year .................................?